Gordon and all the others who replied,
thanks for all the information you provided. I think I've enough information now
to keep on with my Linux installation.

Werner

"Wolfe, Gordon W" wrote:
>
> Werner,
>
> I'm glad I was able to help you find your storage problem.  I remember when sonmeone 
>showed me the "du" command about a year and a half ago how useful it was to me.
>
> As far as LVM is concerned, there are others on this list who are more qualified to 
>speak about LVM than I am.  I'm sure this question has been answered in this list 
>before.  You might check the list archives at 
>http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?linux-vm and do a search (at the bottom of the 
>page) on LVM.  Be patient.  The search can take a while.
>
> Having said that, I do seem to recall that someone posted the fact that even the 
>boot disk can be on a logical volume.  Probably any mount point can be on a logical 
>volume.
>
> Here at Boeing, we use LVM volumes mostly for user data, /home for example, or for 
>Oracle databases, so that we can use more than one physical volume for a mount point. 
> We also keep the Oracle code in logical volumes so we can have more than one mount 
>point on a minidisk.  For our general purpose (non-Oracle, non-WebSphere) linux 
>systems, we create the following minidisks:
>
>         292     mounted as / (boot disk)
>         293     V-disk for swap
>         294     mounted shared read-only as /usr
>         295     mounted as /home
>
> For boot purposes, Linux needs to have (at least) access to /boot, /bin, /sbin and 
>/etc on the boot disk until it is up far enough to mount other filesystems. It may 
>also need /var or /tmp.  It definitely does not need /usr, /opt or /home unless 
>you've done something really radical to change your system.
>
> One more thing.  I wouldn't get too enamored of LVM just yet.  I was in a meeting 
>yesterday and one of the Unix gurus we work with on Linux/390 (and who is usually 
>pretty knowlegeable about these things) mentioned that LVM is going to be sunsetted.  
>It is rumored that Sistina will not be enhancing it beyond the 2.4 kernel, only 
>providing basic maintenance.  This same person said that Linus won't be putting LVM 
>into 2.6 when it comes out.  LVM will apparently be replaced by something similar but 
>more capable from IBM, and that this new filesystem is already in the 2.4.17 kernel.  
>There was an IBM rep there at the meeting and he seemed to know about this change as 
>well.   We've put all our expansion of LVM on hold until we find out if this rumor is 
>true and (if so) what the replacement is and how you work with it.
>
> Perhaps others on the list can expand on this rumor and tell me if I'm just blowing 
>smoke and spreading FUD.
>
> They say there are three signs of stress in your life.  You eat too much junk food, 
>you drive too fast and you veg out in front of the TV.  Who are they kidding?  That 
>sounds like a perfect day to me!
> Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. (425)865-5940
> VM & Linux Servers and Storage, The Boeing Company
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Werner Kuehnel
> > Reply To:     Linux on 390 Port
> > Sent:         Wednesday, February 5, 2003 3:42 AM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Re: Root almost filled on 3390-3
> >
> > Wolfe,
> > thanks for your reply. The du command was a great help in finding the culprit.
> > There were two files in /tmp from the installation of a DB2 fixpack which used
> > up a lot of space. Now we are at 40% and 870MB.
> > However, I'd still like to know which directories can be moved to LVM managed
> > space (only those which will not be accessed until LVM initialization). Is this
> > usual to have parts of root fs in LVM space? In my opinion /var, /usr and /tmp
> > would be good candidates, wouldn't they?
> > Sorry for the dumb questions, but I'm just starting with Linux.
> >
> > Werner
> >
> > "Wolfe, Gordon W" wrote:
> > >
> > > What's on your root?  And what's on the other disks?  Do a "df" and tell us the 
>results.
> > >
> > > I've been running SLES7 for a year with root on a 750-cylinder minidisk and /usr 
>on a dedicated 3390-3 shared read-only, /home on a 500-cylinder minidisk and swap on 
>a v-disk.  I've never filled up root. (Okay, so there was that incident with the TSM 
>client logs...)>
> > >
> > > Check your logs to be sure they aren't filling up space in /var/log.
> > >
> > > cd /var/log
> > > du --max-depth=1 -h
> > >
> > > find out where your big usages are by CD'ing into various directories and trying 
>the du command above.  I found that installing IBMJava2-1.4 used up about 350 megs!
> > >
> > > Do you have Oracle installed?  Websphere?  Those can be HUGE!
> > >
> > > They say there are three signs of stress in your life.  You eat too much junk 
>food, you drive too fast and you veg out in front of the TV.  Who are they kidding?  
>That sounds like a perfect day to me!
> > > Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. (425)865-5940
> > > VM & Linux Servers and Storage, The Boeing Company
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:         Werner Kuehnel
> > > > Reply To:     Linux on 390 Port
> > > > Sent:         Tuesday, February 4, 2003 3:49 AM
> > > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject:      Root almost filled on 3390-3
> > > >
> > > > I've installed SLES7 (Beta version) onto one (of three) 3390-3 dasd. The root
> > > > filesystem is now filled up to 92%. I'd like to have more freespace and wonder
> > > > how to do this.
> > > > Books say that root filesystem under LVM is not recommended. Are there at least
> > > > some directories I can move (of course on the fly) from root filesystem to LVM
> > > > space?
> > > > Are there any recommendations/experiences how to split up root fs to more than
> > > > one 3390-3 volume?
> > > > Any hints are very welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Werner
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Werner Kuehnel
> > > > IMD GmbH (Mannheimer Versicherung)
> > > > Mannheim - Germany
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Werner Kuehnel
> > IMD GmbH (Mannheimer Versicherung)
> > Mannheim - Germany
> >
> >

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Werner Kuehnel
IMD GmbH (Mannheimer Versicherung)
Mannheim - Germany

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