On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote:

> > Since we all know telnet is horrible in this day and age, why isn't it
> > dropped entirely?
> > them find another way.  Shouldn't we just end the debate and
> > get rid of it?
>
> I'd love this if it were possible.
>
> However, I work daily with workstations that have virtually every operating system 
> in common use.  Windows, Mac and Linux, a total of five different operating 
> system/versions.
>
> For -EACH- operating system, I have to have terminal emulators that will emulate 
> VT220 Telnet, VT220 SSH and TN3270 (3279M3G) as well as FTP and SCP clients as well. 
>  Furthermore, to use with a Linux/390 server you'll want both line-mode and 
> KDE/Gnome/X-windows versions.  Not all O/S's have vendors that are forthcoming with 
> such an array of clients.  There is usually a separate client for each of these 
> functions.
>
> And if you have such a client that works on one release of an O/S, there is no 
> guarantee that it will work with another release or version.  I have stuff that 
> works on Windows 2000 that doesn't work on Windows 98.  Nothing that works on Mac 
> OS9 works on Mac OSX, and vice-versa.  and of course, anything that works on Linux 
> doesn't work on anything else.
>
> And even if you have such a client on your workstation, that doesn't mean that it 
> will be compatible with all servers. Sometimes from Windows 2000 I use Hummingbird 
> and sometimes Rhumba, depending on where I'm going to. Mac OS9 has a great program 
> called TCPConnect (Out of business but it still works) that does TN3270, Telnet, FTP 
> and SSH but not x-windows.
>
> If someone could just write a really great universal client terminal emulator that 
> would do all this stuff and cross-compile it to all five of these platforms, I think 
> they'd make a fortune.  I know I'd buy about seven copies just for my own use.


Why not put your collection of clients on a server someplace where folk
can run them straight off the server?

AFAIK Putty works on all Windows.
Linux stuff can be built for OSX.
Linux users already have it;-)

I don't know what the GUI solutions are for all platforms, but once you
have them, as far a stheir licences allow, put them all on the server,
where you can be sure that users and their Viruses can't get at them.

And, if anyone has trouble, give them a Knoppix CD and ask them to
"explain what you need to do that you can't do with what's on this CD."




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Cheers
John.

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