Hello from Gregg C Levine
About the hiding of the source RPMs for S/390 issue. Are you sure
about that one? Every time I wanted to track down a source one for a
binary one on their FTP site, I've found it. Granted, it isn't in the
same format/name, as the Red Hat ones, but it works. Of course this is
for Intel, so things might be different there for S/390.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 8
> 
> Only for the exact version you purchased.  Having access to RPM's
for SLES7 for
> 390 doesn't get you access to the non-SLES for Intel.
> 
> They (SuSE) also "hide" the source RPM's.  When I needed one to
re-implement my
> changes to Openldap, I had to ask for the specific location.
> 
> My experience with RedHat has been that they're more liberal with
this sort of thing,
> but we're stuck with SuSE.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Little, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:21 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 8
> >
> >
> > and if you've purchased the sles or rhas, shouldn't you have
> > that logon?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: SLES 8
> >
> >
> > True, assuming you can find them.  I'm not sure, but you
> > might also need a
> > registration code/login.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Little, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:19 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 8
> > >
> > >
> > > if that's the case, you can always download the srpms and build
them
> > > yourself.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:12 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: SLES 8
> > >
> > >
> > > Not DIRECTLY.  The "Advanced Server" model has the same
> > > support model on
> > > both platforms.  My point is that there IS another model for
> > > Intel, and they
> > > do supply RPM's that CAN be installed on the AS
> > > version IF YOU WANT.  On 390, since nobody is even BUILDING
> > > new RPM's, you
> > > don't even have the option unless you build yourself.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Little, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:05 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but do they give you a choice for there "server"
> > (sles or rhas)
> > > > products on intel?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:24 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: SLES 8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To reiterate, Red Hat and SuSE for Intel give you a CHOICE.
> > > > At least they
> > > > SUPPLY the new version RPM's.  That's not the case
> > > > (officially) with the
> > > > SLES-for-390 version.
> > > >
> > > > Config files shouldn't be stepped on by a properly built RPM.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:30 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:12:32AM +0800, John
> > Summerfield wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The downside (I've found) of the SuSE philosophy on
> > > > > maintenance of the SLES series is that they never (normally)
> > > > > release a new VERSION of a product to fix a problem.  They
> > > > > just retrofit patches to the
> > > > > > > version supplied with the distro.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is generally the case with Red Hat too. THe aim, I
> > > > think, is to
> > > > > > minimist changes so as to minimise the posibility of
> > > > > conflict with other
> > > > > > components, startup scripts and so on.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the changes to your config files!
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words: it is a fix, that should fix your system,
not
> > > > > break it.
> > > > >
> > > > > A side-effect: You end up with a "vulnorable" samba 2.0.7
and
> > > > > openssh 3.1
> > > > > (Or so some skript kiddis might think)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tzafrir Cohen
> > +---------------------------+
> > > > > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's
> > best friend|
> > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > +---------------------------+
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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