I "think" autoyast2 (alice replacement) can also do things like this.  I've
just recently started reading up on it and haven't gotten too deep, but I
did install it and it looks pretty interesting.

http://www.suse.de/~nashif/autoinstall/8.0/html/

Leland

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Cross
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6/10/2003 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Bulk YOU updates?

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Tom Duerbusch wrote:

> Is there an existing HOWTO on this?  What about the shops with hundeds
> of Penguins?  What do you do?

Not that they're likely to get to hundreds here (but you never know, I
guess), but we're using APT-RPM.  I'm sketchy on the details of the
implementation, but what basically happens is that the APT repository
will
hold several 'builds' of a distribution, with each build representing
packages at different levels (errata updates at a particular date, for
example).  When you've completed testing of your new build, you do an
'apt-get dist-upgrade' (I think) from the server and it upgrades to the
next build (at the moment I think this is a manual process, but the guys
are working on a semi-automatic method driven by something like
cfengine).

Different servers can be held at different levels of the build, and
individual servers can be upgraded as change windows and requirements
allow.  Once you have no servers using a particular build (and you're
sure
you won't have to regress a server to it), you can remove that build
from
the repository.

How well would APT-RPM work with SLES?  I'm afraid I don't know.  It
might
be worth a look-at, though.

Cheers,
Vic

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