On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Froberg, David C wrote:

> Thanks to all who have responded.
>
> Management saw a vendor presentation that included Wine and they go pretty
> excited.
>
> For those who have used Bochs, is it fairly stable software?  Also, I've got
> a lpar on a z900
> I've been working on for a while.  Is Bochs efficient enough to do real work
> or would a few users bring it to its knees?
> (I know, it depends on workload, config, etc., but I hope you catch my
> drift).

Do it if you must, just for giggles. Judging from what Hercules does to
my 1.4 Ghz Athlon, one Bochs user doing real work will bring your zBox
to its knees.

Here's another idea should get your management pretty excited.
First get your users (or a significant number of them) onto Linux
desktops. For those who must run Windows software (probably fewer than
you think), there is software to run Windows software on Linux.

Get a little X440 (I say little because it may well be enough, but
there's room to grow), or if you prefer, a Sun or an iSeries or a
pSeries and install Linux on it. This may well be the only desktop Linux
system you have to maintain. I suggest KDE and all its bells & whistles.
Throw in StarOffice and/or OpenOffice. And this:

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/

Read this http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixRemasteringHowto
and download this http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
and make yourself a CD that you can boot on all your PCs (you probably
don't want to throw them away whilever they work) and use them as
X-terminals.

Read this:
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2001/0823.xterminal.html

Ask the bosses how much they expect to spend on Microsoft licences in
the next 12 months. This may well be enough to fund the exercise;-)

Ask 'em how much it costs to maintain the Windows boxes - antivirus
updates, MS updates, visits by the friendly network administrator and so
on.

Tell 'em _you_ reckon _you_ can look after the xBox. And the
X-terminals.

btw If your PCs can boot from the LAN using PXE or etherboot (you can
boot your etherboot "rom" from a floppy) then they don't need a CD or CD
drive or disk drive. Saves power, saves cooling costs in summer.

How many users could use your xBox? Depends.... According to
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2001/0906.xterminal2.html City of
Largo, FL, had 800 employees using 400 x-terminals on a dual 933 Mhz CPU
with 3 Gbytes of RAM.

Maybe you'd better opt for an Opteron;-)


>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> David Froberg
> Phone: 202-312-9807
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Wine on Linux for S/390
>
>
> Froberg, David C wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > Question about Wine.  Can it run on S/390 arch. machines?
> >
> > Doc seems to indicate 'no'.
>
> Perhaps it could in the sense that you could run an ia32 emulator on
> s/390.  See, for example, http://www.fsf.net/~adam/NT-on-390-desktop.png ;-)
>
> Greg Smith
>

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Cheers
John.

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