<anti-rant>
I am not a Linux administrator (only).  I run what I want to run on my
desktop.  I like to keep relatively current on a range of operating systems,
not only Linux.  If nothing else, it keeps me abreast of what is going on
with large part of the IT consumers in the world.  I was responsible for
getting Linux added to the list of acceptable desktop systems for my company
(no small feat for our size).  Some of the people on this list have enough
real work to do that they don't have the time to go fight bureaucracy.  Some
of them don't work for the company that sets the policy.  I am signed into
enough Linux systems throughout the day that I don't need the practice.
Others might need the practice, but can't afford to have their desktop out
of order for an extended period if they make a major mistake.  Don't make
unsupportable assumptions about what other people can or should do.
</anti-rant>

Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: John Summerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Changing runlevels etc


On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:

> As has often been mentioned here, Cygwin offers a lot of benefits.  For
> example, it has an OpenSSH implementation that includes scp.  I use it
> frequently to copy stuff to my various Linux and Linux/390 systems.  I
also
> use it to ssh into my Windows 2K system from home, if I want to be able to
> do data-intensive things remotely.  I also use rsync running on my Windows
> 2K box to copy stuff to my home system.  Cygwin is a great tool.  If
people
> aren't running it already, I highly recommend getting a copy of what you
> think you might need and install it.  You won't be sorry.



Time for a rant;-)

You people are supposed to be Linux administrators. Therefore, you
should be capable of looking after Linux on your desktop.

If you are capable of looking after Linux on your desktop, then you
should be running Linux on your desktop.

If you are not capable of looking after Linux on your desktop, then you
should be running Linux on your desktop so as to become more familiar
with it.

If "corporate standards" require a "standard desktop" argue for an
alternative "corporate standard." Propose it as a pilor study. Point out
the deficiencies in W* - it's prone to viruses and the like and so needs
bandaids such as AV software, it requires add-on  after add-on, all of
which strain the "corporate standard," licencing issues with commercial
software are an ongoing nightmare etc, W* requires everyone to have an
expensive, fairly new PC of their own.

In contrast, Linux doesn't fall to viruses, doesn't need those bandaids,
a bog-standard Linux installation actually has lots of useful
application software on it, licencing issues with commercial software
are next to non-existant (hardly anyone will need commercial software),
and everyone will get along just fine with a (whatever you've got that's
old and cheap - say a Pentium with 32 Mbytes of RAM) running as an
X-terminal.

If you really really must use Windows for something, then I guess you
will have to have your own expensive PC - but point out the hardware and
software costs - but you can still run Windows under vmware or use
win4lin.

The peecees running Linux will integrate much more nicely with your
mainframes running Linux;-)



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Cheers
John.

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