On Thursday, 10/09/2003 at 09:12 EST, James Melin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There seems to be a prejudice here that every shop that is doing z/Linux
is
> also a vm shop, and this is patently false. One of the appealing things
> about a z-990 for OUR situation would be the 30 LPAR capability, as we
do
> not have 40,000 per engine plus maintenance there after for VM. (or
> whatever the astronomical figure is), and many shops don' t have that
> financial capacity either.

"Never let money get in the way of a good business relationship," I always
say.   :-)

The MSRP of z/VM V4 is $45K per CPU (one-time charge), plus $11K per CPU
per year for maintenence.  RACF, DirMaint, and the Performance Toolkit are
extra.  If you want to run z/VM on IFLs, count only IFLs.  If you want to
run on standard engines, count only standard engines.  If you want to run
on both, count all of them.  Hardly "astronomical".  (The use of IFLs will
add Linux and/or z/VM capacity without increasing your z/OS costs, btw.)

Like cars, the MSRP is a starting point.  If you think z/VM could provide
value to your efforts, go talk to your friendly IBM rep or business
partner.  You will find them very receptive to your needs.  Remember that
running in LPARs does have a cost structure associated with it, too.  But
if you're content with the balance of function and cost of LPARs, then
it's a business decision to not use z/VM and I can respect that.  Just
make sure you don't assume things about z/VM costs.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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