The problem I see is intermittent.  I can go a while without seeing it, and
then it might be very frequent, then go away again.  In all cases, in
between instances, network response is normal.

The LCDS runs z/VM 4.3, not 4.4, so I would say that is not a factor.


Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z/VM 4.4 guestlan problems


I would say that the problem almost definitely lies in the realm of the qeth
and qdio drivers. As I mentioned before, starting the newtwork after
removing the
qeth and qdio modules did initially clear my problems up. Simply restarting
the network wasn't sufficient, the modules had to be removed. I've also
noticed
that I can log into a machine via the console and it responds normally.
Unfortunately, I don't think that my users will consider the mandatory
use of x3270  and ed as any kind of real solution.

Your desription of the similar problems that you are experiencing makes
them sound intermittent in nature. Is that so? As I said, all of my machines
are constantly exhibiting this behavior. The difference lies in the severity
of the delay. If a machine is terminally fouled up, I've found that bouncing
the
network and reloading the qeth/qdio drivers can help, but doesn't bring it
back
to the responsivity level that we enjoyed under z/VM 4.2. "Improvement"
means the
delay between keypress and display lasts 1-3 secs. rather than 4-8 secs.

So far, our network services haven't been too adversely effected on images
that
are experiencing the minimal delay. On the machines that are begging for a
network bounce, however, there is a noticable delay, sometimes painfully so.
Oviously, this is an untenable situation.

One final question: Are these problems that I'm experiencing a side-effect
of
our upgrade to 4.4, or is it something only peripherially associated with
it?

Thanks for the responses,

Michael Lambert



>There are definitely some problems in this area, but I'm not sure how to
>isolate them.  The folks that run the LCDS seem to think it is with the
>qeth/qdio Linux/390 drivers.  I see symptoms very similar to what you're
>seeing.  Random, moderately frequent network "freezes" that clear
themselves
>anywhere from 1 to 20+ seconds (or more?).
>
>
>Mark Post

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