I'll argue about RPGII; when used for what it was designed expressly to do, it is fast, simple and straight forward.
Not, however, the thing they call RPG III, that is an offense on a par with an uncleaned outhouse in mid august. -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfe, Gordon W Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Progress on PL/1 for Linux >One could say the same thing about Java. That the language wasn't well conceived. Actually, one can make the case that NO computer language is really well-conceived. Of all the languages I've learned over the years, none is really universal in nature and will handle all possible situations with ease of programming. My current list of languages includes Fortran (my first, back in the '60's) Cobol Basic RPGII (probably the worst of the bunch) Various assembler languages for various platforms Algol APL (puh-LEEZE!) PL/I (Is it fortran or cobol?) C (but not C++) Unix Shell Script Rexx/Regina (My favorite) Java Perl Applescript And I find that none of them will do everything I want to. So I end up coding in whatever language I can get the task done most quickly and easily. Sometimes it's Rexx, sometimes it's assembler, sometimes it's fortran, sometimes it's C, sometimes it's shell script. Makes for Job Security, because often I'll have one module call another and they're not written in the same language and no one but me can follow it. "An Optimist is just a pessimist with no job experience." - Scott Adams Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Enterprise Servers 425-865-5940 > ---------- > From: James Melin > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Progress on PL/1 for Linux > > One could say the same thing about Java. That the language wasn't well > conceived. That not withstanding, PL/1, like any language has its uses. > It is not the be-all, do-all, end-all of programming languages. No language > is. Having it available for those things that it does do well is the point > of merit. Another tool in the toolbox. > > > > "Nix, Robert P." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > edu> To > Sent by: Linux on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 390 Port cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> Subject > Re: Progress on PL/1 for Linux > > 07/07/2004 08:25 > AM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't share your excitement... I find it hard to get into any > language that the defaults would allow you to add three positive numbers, > get a result of zero, and not throw some sort of error or warning. The > language wasn't well conceived. > > ---- > Robert P. Nix internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mayo Clinic phone: 507-284-0844 > RO-CE-8-857 page: 507-270-1182 > 200 First St. SW > Rochester, MN 55905 > ---- "Codito, Ergo Sum" > "In theory, theory and practice are the same, > but in practice, theory and practice are different." > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Havelock, Glenn A > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:41 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Progress on PL/1 for Linux > > > > Hello Dave: > > > > Thanks for the info on this, PL/1 has been, for myself at least, an > extremely flexible and robust language on OS/390 and Z/OS and it's good to > know there's yet another option for coding on machines running LINUX. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > For > LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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