> I wasn't really talking about the latency, but of the overhead of
> breaking data down and put it in packets, with header info, etc,
> transmitting thru/to another process which reads the header,
> reconstruct
> the data just to turn around it write it to tape.
>
> Right?  Write to tape is still faster than to transmit to another
> process to write to the same tape?

Natively, I'd agree. Given the amount of stuff that has to be done to
get tape to work properly on Linux, I'm not so sure this is still true
in the end when all is said & done. Linux is a lot better optimized to
talk to the network than tape.

> I currently have a process for the last few years, that effectively
> attach/detach large pools of disk space between Linux images.
>  For some
> things, I just need scratch disk space, for other things, my RPM
> repository.  So this has never been a big deal.

It is here. If you've got a significant number of clients tossing data
at you in a backup scenario, you *will* overrun the transfer rate of any
tape drive with any significant chunks of data. Spooling to temporary
disk is a Good Thing in this environment.

> Still communications.  But I do see the point.  I'm on z/VM 4.2 so I
> have guest lan support, but not all the features that are on
> later releases.

This is basic gLAN function; nothing special. Direct analogue to putting
another private network segment together and shipping the backup traffic
only over that segment.

> Bad part about this, is the IBM Business Partners seem to
> only talk TSM
> when trying to sell z/890s and z/Linux.  So sometimes they
> can steer the
> extra hardware as being just a given.  So, you pay the BP to steer to
> FCP, instead of paying developers to provide for channel attached tape
> drives.

Except you get an interesting catch-22: if you buy SCSI drives to use
with TSM, you can't use them with DDR or SPXTAPE. If you buy
channel-attached drives to use with DDR (or SPXTAPE), you can't use them
with TSM.

Oops. (in the classic Peter Sellers sense).

It would be really helpful if IBM got emulated 3420/3480 support for
SCSI drives working. It really puzzles me why this isn't clearly a
direction they should go. It breaks the least amount of stuff in either
world and you'd have the advantage of finally having decent TMS systems
in the SCSI tape world (ReelLibrarian is pretty weak compared to VM:Tape
or even RMS, and it's the best of a really rotten lot); it's not like
IBM hasn't done it before with AWS34XX on the P390 and MPxxxx boxen, and
it'd be really, really nice to not have this dichotomy of worlds. Would
also be the quickest route to letting z/OS use those SCSI tape drives
while we wait for the rewrite of the z/OS I/O handling.

I really don't care if emulated tape is slower than the channel-attached
drives -- 200G per volume makes up for a lot of slowness, especially if
you can share those AIO-2 drives with other systems (and use their
budget to pay for part of the silos).

-- db

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