On 11/2/05, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Yu Safin wrote:
>
> > Agree, I apologize for the poor use of words.
> > However, I am still confused as to the explanation about using a
> > routing daemon.  can you be more specific as to what this is all
> > about.  We have our solution fully implemented and we have no such
> > daemon.
> ....
>
> > Right on.  We now have a solution for getting to our VIPA dummy
> > address from the network.  However, we have done nothing yet about the
> > return IP address from our network services.  Most of them would use
> > the first eth.  Source-VIPA and "ip route" will get us to the complete
> > solution.
>
> I want to know how the solution for getting to the dummy address from
> the network works in the absence of a routing daemon.
>
> Basically, let's say you've got physical interfaces A and B, and
> dummy D.  Initially D--which is the IP address everyone should use--
> gets to/from the network via A.  Then A dies.
>
> How does the network know to use B to get to D, and how does the host
> know to get to the network via B and not A, in the absence of a
> routing daemon?  I can see using "ip route" to create a failover on
> the host (or indeed equal cost multipathing across A and B when both
> interfaces are up (iproute2 is SOOOOO cool!))--but how does the
> network know which way to get back to D?  This is where you'd
> traditionally use OSPF and send out an update when A fell over saying
> "get to D via B instead."
>
> Adam
>
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Adam:
I can think and tried two methods that worked for us.
1) program the router (we used ios/cisco) to provide a path to D via
both A and B.
2) use quagga to advertise D to your router via OSPF (may be this is
what a routing daemon is all about).
In both cases, we also used the "ip route" command to establish the D
IP address as the source IP address for all outgoing packets.
We quickly discarded option 1 because option 2 provided an automatic
fail over plus some load balancing between A and B.
With VMSWITCH coming our way, we will eliminate quagga.

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