On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote:

> shogunx wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote:
> >>It *should* work  as
> >>far as I can tell, but be aware that you can run into nasty deadlocks once
> >>you don't have a local swap disk: you'll need networking for paging/disk IO,
> >>and once linux is hard out of memory networking is suspended until there is
> >>memory available => deadlock.
> >
> >
> > How would that be different than having swap on standard SAN housed
> > DASD?  Does ficon/escon not suspend under those conditions?
> Our device driver infrastructure in the swap path is aware of that problem and
> is able to do IO without the need for memory (preallocation of FICON channel
> programs etc.). Same is true for SCSI subsystem. Thus, this deadlock cannot
> arise with FICON/FCP.

I understand.  Its using the TCP/IP stack that will cause the problem.

>
> >>Workaround could be to have a ramdisk or z/VM DCSS as swap target, or to go
> >>to church once a week ;-).
> >
> >
> > Ramdisk would probably do the job.  I'll start by installing linux on the
> > bare metal of the 9672.  BTW, there are only 5 processors live on this
> > particular 9672, I suppose I would have to pay to get the other 7
> > functional?
> Ask your IBM sales representative about this, I am sure they can help you
> here ;-).

The funny thing is I do not have one of those.  I purchased the machine
from a military surplus auction.  According to the info I have gathered,
it was deployed in the pentagon as part of army.mil before I bought it.  I
paid a total of $4G including shipping for the 2 cabinet gen5 9672 and 2
sharks.  Notwithstanding, the only way I could afford to speak to a sales
rep about this would probably be speak to a HR department person first,
and hope skilled linux geeks are in demand at IBM;)  I would first have to
abandon my mom and pop business to do so, however...

Scott

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> Carsten Otte
> IBM Linux technology center
> ARCH=s390
>

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