We're on a base/incremental funding model, so at request time, the users
kick back some $.  Ongoing support would go into base I think.

They calculate the DASD costs the same as for distributed systems - so
many $ per Gigabyte (can't remember the number but it include storage
people time and some costs for the backups).  No charge for network.
We charge 5-10 hours or so for server creation and a fee for cpu based
on someone's guess at MIPS that might be used (usually 3-5K I suspect).
If it's a big app, more extensive sizing might be done - or we make them
by the IFL :)

We use the CA suite on VM (and use VM:Operator to route messages to
Command Post), Velocity for performance monitoring, and for Linux
monitoring HP OVO & Wily Introscope (for Websphere Java stuff) and
something else on WebSphere who's name I can't remember at the moment -
but I think it ties in with the Introscope.

Marcy Cortes


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-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Doug Carroll
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [LINUX-390] Chargeback and Toolsets

For those who do charge back for their zLinux Servers I'd really be
interested in hearing how you do your chargeback and what's including in
the chargeback?

for example.
do you chargeback CPU Time or Whole Servers?
Network?
DASD?

how about SAN storage and Tape.

We're working on this now and we're trying to not kill the project by
making it to expensive to run on zSeries Hardware.

Also

What are some of the toolsets in use out there.
IBM DIRMAINT/RACF  vs. CA VM suite for Linux what monitoring products do
you use?
backup/restore products?

Any input is really appreciated


William 'Doug' Carroll
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