On 12/2/05, Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:40, McKown, John wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Waite, Dick
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:49 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: SAS for Linux on S/390
> > >
> > >
> > > Grand Day
> > >
> > >     If your looking for a compiler and assembler that runs on z/VM,
> > > z/OS, zLinux, LinTel and WinTel and is 99% compatible with
> > > SAS then try
> > > the link below. I have been using Dignus for many years now and before
> > > that SAS/C, I'm happy with Dignus, give it a try maybe you will be
> > > too...
> >
> > Ah, Dick. Dignus does not produce a SAS language replacement. It does
> > have a very fine replacement for IBM's and SAS's C compiler and IBM's
> > HLASM. But that is not the product under discussion. SAS Institute was
> > founded upon the SAS language. This is a very powerful data language
> > (which I think is so tightly copyrighted/patented/???? that even trying
> > to make a similar language will result in a lawsuit) with associated
> > "procedures". IIRC, SAS originally targetted this for statistics and
> > stood for Statistical Analysis System (but that was long, long ago, in a
> > galaxy far, far way)
>
> Actually, they'd probably lose any such case.  The basic information is so
> widely spread on very many mainframe-using Universities' websites that I
> suspect any judge would consider that their stake in it had been diluted so
> badly that such claims were risible.  And ask them to sort it out quietly
> amongst themselves instead of wasting his time.
>
> I think the reason they may _not_ have been cloned, was that people got and
> made other statistical tools and languages for computers - the GNU R language
> springs to mind; a written-from-specs clone plus improvements of the S
> statistical language.  (Heck, I think there were even statistics programs
> written for CP/M and MP/M!)
>
> And so you're likely to find most of your statistics tools and languages
> already in Debian, say, or SLES, already there.
>
> Wesley Parish
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Thank you so much.  I have met with SAS on this issue.  We are a VERY
significant account for them and yet they have not taken any action. 
I will be interested in finding out more about the unsupported
version.  We are still going to keep our zOS SAS license but must add
SAS to Linux for z-Series so we can port some applications we have
under AIX.

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