I guess I don't see anyone breaking into the class G guest if the class
G guest doesn't a password and is logon by only by the systems
programmers with her password.  I guess in theory they could somehow get
to cp by linux, but then he'd already have the NIC anyway. 

I guess we'll hear about the new stuff soon :)

Marcy Cortes
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-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] First install of RedHat under z/VM

On Friday, 02/10/2006 at 11:39 CST, Marcy Cortes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tend to agree with Rich.  No one here gets an ID on a VM IFL system 
> except the systems programmers.  We all have privileges anyway and 
> know how to use them :)

But it's not about the systems programmers - it's about what happens
when someone breaks into your class G guest.  For a sandbox, "shields
down" is fine, but for production environments, I'm not quite so ready
to agree.

<tantalizing_tidbit>
We've got some really neat-o keen stuff coming down the pike that I
think will satisfy both sides of the discussion, providing ease of use
for the sysprog while still maintaing an ACL (access control list)
philosophy adored by us totalitarian security weasels.
</tantalizing_tidbit>

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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