I would have replied off-list,  but I know you have strong spam filtering.

Pieter Harder wrote:
> I keep wondering about all this insistence on emulation etc.
> There must be something in between the HMC ASCII console (one per LPAR),

> and total emulation in software (capable of running thousands)

Then John Summerfield wrote:
> _I_ was suggesting a device that VM might emulate (present to Linux as a
> virtual keyboard-printer), and that being start/stop. might actually
> work well with Linux. I think there is/was an SNA start/stop device too,
> but I never programmed any SNA devices, so don't remember them so well.

The 3215 virtual console presented to Linux by z/VM is such a keyboard
printer.
If you connect with a 3270 (or emulator),  VM uses fields on the 3270
screen for pre-defined
input and output areas.  The guest operating system only sees lines (or
"records")
and the console driver in Linux translates between ASCII and EBCDIC.

If there is any flaw with the translation,  it is only that Linux should
treat "EBCDIC" as Codepage 1047.

If there is any lack of Unixiness  (eg: cannot run 'vi'),  it is present
in any  "keyboard printer"
whether that is an ASCII animal or a mainframe EBCDIC critter.

-- R;





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Pieter Harder wrote:
> I keep wondering about all this insistence on emulation etc.
> There must be something in between the HMC ASCII console (one per LPAR),
and total emulation in software (capable of running thousands)
>

_I_ was suggesting a device that VM might emulate (present to Linux as a
virtual keyboard-printer), and that being start/stop. might actually
work well with Linux. I think there is/was an SNA start/stop device too,
but I never programmed any SNA devices, so don't remember them so well.



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Cheers
John

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