From a RedBook I just downloaded (Server Time Protocol Planning Guide
sg247280.pdf).

"The z/VM(r) operating system does not support STP or the Sysplex Timer.
It can, however,
tolerate their existence. That is, if z/VM is running on an STP-enabled
server or on a server
attached to the Sysplex Timer, z/VM continues to operate normally and
has no awareness of
STP or the Sysplex Timer.

The servers TOD is synchronized to STP or the Sysplex Timer by the LPAR
LIC. The logical
partition has a logical TOD offset from the processor TOD, which may be
set by z/VM during
IPL. If a synchronization check occurs, the LPAR LIC adjusts the logical
TOD offset for each
logical partition. To zero out the offset, the logical partition must be
deactivated and activated
again."



Paul Feller 
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Richards.Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:49 AM
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I'm confused as well. And it has been awhile since I played with this
(early days of sysplex timers, ETR, et al.)

Doesn't the z9 have a *hardware* clock *AND* a TOD clock? And isn't the
hardware clock be set by the Sysplex timer? In addition to John's NTP
daemon idea, can't z/VM get its time from the hardware clock and
subsequently z/Linux underneath z/VM? 

Or am I wrong about the hardware clock and the rest is my personal pipe
dream? :-(

Bob Richards 



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McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Server Time Protocol support for zSeries

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Dave Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Server Time Protocol support for zSeries
> 
> 
> That's a good question, John. As far as I know, Linux on zSeries 
> (either VM guest or native) can use an external time source to set its

> clock.
> 
> The real problem is that z/VM and it's guests can not use the same 
> time source as z/OS to sync their clocks together. Consider the case 
> where there are two LPARS in a z9-BC, one running z/OS and using STP 
> to set its clock and the other LPAR running z/VM and Linux guests with

> its time set by the operator's Timex.  :-)
> 
> DJ

I'm still a bit confused. I know that z/VM cannot set its clock to the
STP time source. But why couldn't the Linux systems under z/VM use XNTP
to set their clock to the z/OS value? z/OS 1.7 can run an NTP daemon
which the Linux instances should be able to use. I hope that would be
"close enough".

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