Sir Dave spake:
> z/VM 5.2 already uses a similar approach for it's installation. You load
> a ramdisk image from the DVD, using the HMC, and the ramdisk image then
> IPLs itself on the bare metal, with MAINT already logged onto the HMC
> integrated 3270 console. The HMC can load the ramdisk from either the
> DVD reader in the HMC, or from an FTP server that the HMC can reach over
> the network. It's so simple a caveman could do it.....

This is a stretch from what Linux people are used to,  Dave.  It's not as
if CP sees a CP volume in memory,  which is what Linux means when it says
"RAMDISK".

-- R;





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McKown, John wrote:
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>
> Hum, I've heard of this type of thing. And I do boot Knoppix from CD on
> rare occassion. But that disrupts my normal work (I'm forced to run MS
> Windows at work. I'm MS-free at home).
>
>
>>
>>The free vmware Unless it's changed) doesn't allow to create Linux
>>images. However, i think MS's freeware does.
>
Can you give a pointer to where one might find this MS "freeware" v.m.
application? Thanks.

>
> The one that I downloaded allowed me to create a "from scratch" virtual
> machine, which I used to create a Ubuntu desktop system (assign the ISO
> as a virtual CD-ROM in VMware and boot from it), just to look at it.
> Personally, I don't touch anything from MS unless I am forced to.
>
>
[snip....]
>
> It would be wonderful to be able to IPL from the DVD via the HMC, and
> then access the DVD contents via TCPIP while still on the HMC. IBM could
> do this with the new Linux-based HMCs, but I have not heard that they
> allow this. I have "heard" that the HMC is totally locked into the HMC
> application, no access to Linux at all.
>
>
z/VM 5.2 already uses a similar approach for it's installation. You load
a ramdisk image from the DVD, using the HMC, and the ramdisk image then
IPLs itself on the bare metal, with MAINT already logged onto the HMC
integrated 3270 console. The HMC can load the ramdisk from either the
DVD reader in the HMC, or from an FTP server that the HMC can reach over
the network. It's so simple a caveman could do it.....

You are correct about the new release (2.9?) of the HMC being
Linux-based. It is totally locked down so that there is no way to get a
normal Linux logon prompt, so you can not install other Linux
applications, etc. It also has a horrible end use interface....much
worse than the OS/2 one, imho. The editor is terrible, and the
integrated 3270 console's fonts are so bad that it is basically
unusable....:-(

DJ

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