On 2/19/07, Jan Vanbrabant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But I would like to know precisely in what "blindfolded" & "less hostile 
environment"  consists of.

The basic idea is that z/VM allows you to abstract from the actual
hardware and presents an ideal machines to the operating system
running in that virtual machine (to Linux, in this case). This is
attractive because it allows the host to allocate real resources in
the most suitable way without bothering the guest with the details. It
also isolates the guest OS from specific hardware details because you
only need the host to deal with those. Part of that ideal machine is
for example that error recovery is kept outside the virtual machine
where possible.
Life with Linux ended up less ideal, for various reasons (mostly
political, imho). We now find that z/VM reveals way to much details
about the real system to the guest, and Linux code deals with those
details as if it were running on bare metal. And everyone thinks that
it is normal that you would need to upgrade all your Linux virtual
machines just because you moved their mini disks from one DASD
subsystem to the other.

You should know that besides z/OS, we are partially VM. But that platform is 
not strategic within our company. And after many years the management has 
finally decided to get rid of it and to migrate it to MVS. Should be realized 
by the 2-nd half of next year.

The other thing that z/VM provides is security and isolation. If you
run your mainframe DASD shared among all LPARs, you should be aware
that someone with root access on a Linux LPAR can (by accident) wipe
out your z/OS production data. Something like that can kill a Proof of
Concept project, if nothing more. Considering the lack of granularity
in access control on Linux, you may find way too many people can do
dangerous things. Especially when you connect that server to the ugly
Internet. The virtual machine provided by z/VM restricts access to
whatever that virtual machine needs to have (which may sometimes be
even less than class G).

And now, zLinux is peeping around the corner ...  with VM sitting & laughing on 
it's shoulder.

You're correct that Linux on the mainframe helped to keep VM around in
many installations, has brought VM back in several shops, and caused
new VM installations as well. That was intended, and it is good to see
it worked out.

I suppose that when you're looking at a very static situation with no
future growth, then you might even get a business case for Linux on
the mainframe without z/VM (like to replace a single 3745 and nothing
more). In most situations however, the added value of z/VM is a key
factor.
And in your case the education issue probably does not apply, so
you're just looking at license cost (and big egos of people who
decided to get rid of z/VM)

Rob

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