>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at  4:00 PM, in message
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"Rodriguez, Oscar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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>       Does anyone have some good examples of software licensing cost
> savings by moving from distributed servers to Linux on the mainframe?
> 
>       I'm giving a presentation on the cost savings and I think this
> is something I want to focus on.

It's a good point, but don't forget power and floor space.  I just had a 
meeting yesterday with a client who is unable to get any more power for their 
data center.  (The utility refuses to sell it to them.)  So, they're looking at 
migrating a bunch of midrange boxes to Linux on System z.

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>       From what I've read it seems that some software vendors, like
> IBM and possibly Oracle are charging the same amount per engine as they
> are per distributed cpu.

As you say, a number of ISVs are treating Linux on System z as "distributed 
workload" and pricing it per engine.  Almost all of IBM's middleware products 
are like that, for example, as well as Oracle.  The problem with Oracle is that 
they haven't made a lot of their applications available so far.  Some of them, 
but not even a majority of them (last I checked).

>       Since we can run several Linux instances on one engine, there
> are clearly cost savings there.
> 
>       Basically do you guys know of any more examples ? 

Nationwide Insurance has been very visible at SHARE and System z Expo, talking 
about their savings.  First National Bank of Omaha.  Citigroup running DB2 was 
mentioned in an Information Week article a whle back.

>       What vendors / software are people targeting to consolidate on
> the mainframe do to the software licensing savings ?

I'm not yet really happy with the page at 
http://www.novell.com/partners/ibm/mainframe/success.html but you can look 
there to get an idea what people have been doing.


Mark Post

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