Eric, If you are planning to run Linux under VM, then start here: z/VM V5R3.0 Getting Started with Linux on System z9 and zSeries (SC24-6096-02)
We're doing a proof of concept too but using SLES9. You'll need to contact Novell for a trial of z/Linux. Have fun!! Thanks, Val -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LINUX-390 automatic digest system Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: LINUX-390 Digest - 14 Dec 2007 to 15 Dec 2007 (#2007-308) There are 3 messages totalling 586 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. LINUX-390 Digest - 13 Dec 2007 to 14 Dec 2007 (#2007-307) 2. Where to begin? (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:47:59 -0800 From: bob molerio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LINUX-390 Digest - 13 Dec 2007 to 14 Dec 2007 (#2007-307) I wish I were in your shoes! Lucky guy. --- LINUX-390 automatic digest system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are 6 messages totalling 331 lines in this > issue. >=20 > Topics of the day: >=20 > 1. Where to begin? (6) >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:27:04 -0500 > From: Eric Gericke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Where to begin? >=20 > Hi, >=20 > My boss told me that we are going to do a pilot > project using > zLinux. I've only a little OpenSuSE 10.3 > experience from installing > and playing with it at home. I googled doc for > zLinux and z/VM and I > get tons of hits. I just don't know where to > start my reading. Can > anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that will > help me to > build the basic knowledge I need to get started. >=20 > Thanks and Merry Christmas, >=20 > Eric >=20 > --=3D20 > 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! > http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=3D3D8033174 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:15 -0600 > From: Mark Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where to begin? >=20 > Eric, >=20 > I would recommend starting at http://linuxvm.org - a > great home-base, so to > speak.. Then Redbooks... >=20 > Mark L. Wheeler > IT Infrastructure, 3M Center B224-4N-20, St Paul MN > 55144 > Tel: (651) 733-4355, Fax: (651) 736-7689 > mlwheeler at mmm.com >=20 > "I have this theory that if one person can go out of > their way to show > compassion then it will start a chain reaction of > the same. People will > never know how far a little kindness can go." Rachel > Joy Scott >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Eric Gericke > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > sultant.com> =20 > To > Sent by: Linux on =20 > [email protected] > 390 Port =20 > cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> =20 > Subject > Where to > begin? >=20 > 12/14/2007 12:27 > PM >=20 >=20 > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > My boss told me that we are going to do a pilot > project using > zLinux. I've only a little OpenSuSE 10.3 > experience from installing > and playing with it at home. I googled doc for > zLinux and z/VM and I > get tons of hits. I just don't know where to > start my reading. Can > anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that will > help me to > build the basic knowledge I need to get started. >=20 > Thanks and Merry Christmas, >=20 > Eric >=20 > -- > 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! > http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=3D8033174 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:40:03 -0600 > From: dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where to begin? >=20 > Hi, Eric. >=20 > Start with this fittingly named manual: > "Getting Started with Linux on System z" > (http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HCSX0B20/CCO N= TENTS?SHELF=3Dhcsh2a90&DN=3DSC24-6096-02&DT=3D20070417154723) > from the IBM z/VM Library. >=20 > Good luck. >=20 > DJ >=20 > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > > Eric Gericke > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > sultant.com> > > To > > Sent by: Linux on > > [email protected] > > 390 Port > > cc > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > > Subject > > Where to > begin? > > > > 12/14/2007 12:27 > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > Linux on 390 Port > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > My boss told me that we are going to do a pilot > project > > using > > zLinux. I've only a little OpenSuSE 10.3 > experience > > from installing > > and playing with it at home. I googled doc for > zLinux > > and z/VM and I > > get tons of hits. I just don't know where to > start my > > reading. Can > > anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that > will help > > me to > > build the basic knowledge I need to get started. > > > > Thanks and Merry Christmas, > > > > Eric > > > > -- > > 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! > > http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=3D8033174 > > >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:57:20 -0500 > From: Michael MacIsaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where to begin? >=20 > Eric, >=20 > > Can anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that > will help > > me to build the basic knowledge I need to get > started. >=20 > You might try the Virtualization Cookbooks. The most > recent are for SLES > 10 and for RHEL 5. See the top two entries > http://linuxvm.org/present/ > They were originally written to "jump start" a > zLinux pilot project (they > have been Redbooks in the past and these two > versions may be upated for > z/VM 5.3 into new Redbooks). I will try to answer > any questions. >=20 > There is another good book, "Getting Started With > Linux", which is an IBM > z/VM Publication (See Dave Jones' append for > details). >=20 > "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) > 433-7061 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:31:04 -0600 > From: "Feller, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where to begin? >=20 > You could try http://linuxvm.org/Present/index.html >=20 > I would start by looking at some of the cookbooks. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Paul=3D20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Eric Gericke > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Where to begin? >=20 > Hi, >=20 > My boss told me that we are going to do a pilot > project using > zLinux. I've only a little OpenSuSE 10.3 > experience from installing > and playing with it at home. I googled doc for > zLinux and z/VM and I > get tons of hits. I just don't know where to > start my reading. Can > anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that will > help me to > build the basic knowledge I need to get started. >=20 > Thanks and Merry Christmas, >=20 > Eric >=20 > -- > 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! > http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=3D3D8033174 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:17:00 -0700 > From: Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Where to begin? >=20 > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 1:27 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Eric Gericke > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:=3D20 > > Hi, > >=3D20 > > My boss told me that we are going to do a pilot > project using > > zLinux. I've only a little OpenSuSE 10.3 > experience from installing > > and playing with it at home. I googled doc for > zLinux and z/VM and I > > get tons of hits. I just don't know where to > start my reading. Can > > anyone point me to docs (IBM preferable) that > will help me to > > build the basic knowledge I need to get started. >=20 > Eric, >=20 > A number of people have pointed you to some good > places. More specifically=3D > , for understanding what you're doing to need to > understand to get =3D > started, look at either my Linux Installation > Planning presentation > http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE109/S9233mp.pdf or > the article http://www.z=3D > journal.com/index.cfm?section=3D3Darticle&aid=3D3D766 >=20 > That's only going to cover the Linux piece. If > you're not familiar with =3D > z/VM either, then Mike's Cookbooks will help you get > started there, but =3D > you should also subscribe to the IBMVM listserve, > which fills the same =3D > need for z/VM that Linux-390 does for Linux. >=20 > If you're going to try out SLES10 (which I strongly > recommend, aside from =3D > being a Novell employee), you'll want to download > the SLES10 SP1 Starter =3D > System to simplify things even more: > http://download.novell.com/Download?bu=3D > ildid=3D3DM5V5-w8h2M0~ Be aware that there's one > known bug, and that's in =3D > the sample CP directory entry. Some of the entries > are not in the order =3D > CP requires them to be, so validate that against the > z/VM manuals. >=20 > You'll also want to look at the little script I > wrote to generate SLES10 =3D > AutoYaST control files. This will help you automate > the creation of your =3D > first test system, with that being a very minimal > system, as opposed to a =3D > bloated one. You can find that at > http://linuxvm.org/Patches/#autoinst >=20 > Whether you use the Starter System (please, you > won't regret it), or you =3D > download the SLES10 SP1 DVD image yourself, look in > the /docu/en/ =3D > directory. You'll find two PDF files in there, > named preparation.pdf and =3D > startup.pdf. Look through those as well. >=20 > Finally, this mailing list and IBMVM is likely to be > your best resources. =3D > Both lists are happy to help newcomers, so use them > when you need them. =3D > Don't bang your head on the wall too long before > asking for help, if it =3D > comes to that. >=20 >=20 > Mark Post >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > End of LINUX-390 Digest - 13 Dec 2007 to 14 Dec 2007 > (#2007-307) > **************************************************************** >=20 Thank you, =20 Bob Molerio =20 ___________________________________________________________________= _________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.=20 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:21:27 -0600 From: Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Where to begin? By all means, take Mark's suggestion and start with the SLES10 SP1 Starter System, that the nice folks over at Sine Nomine Assoc. have put together. It will save you tons of aggravation in getting your first Linux guest installed and running. A corrected USER DIRECT entry for the starter system is included here: USER SLES10 xxxxxxx 512M 512M G CONSOLE 0009 3215 T CONLOG SPOOL 000C 2540 READER * SPOOL 000D 2540 PUNCH A SPOOL 000E 1403 A LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR LINK MAINT 019D 019D RR LINK NOVSTART 019F 019F RR IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR MACHINE XA NICDEF 0340 TYPE QDIO LAN SYSTEM GLAN1 MDISK 0191 3390 0001 0005 530U0A MDISK 0150 3390 0006 0050 530U0A MDISK 0151 3390 0056 3283 530U0A MDISK 0152 3390 0001 3338 USER04 Mark Post wrote: >>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 1:27 PM, in message > > If you're going to try out SLES10 (which I strongly recommend, aside > from being a Novell employee), you'll want to download the SLES10 SP1 > Starter System to simplify things even more: > http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=M5V5-w8h2M0~ Be aware > that there's one known bug, and that's in the sample CP directory > entry. Some of the entries are not in the order CP requires them to > be, so validate that against the z/VM manuals. > > You'll also want to look at the little script I wrote to generate > SLES10 AutoYaST control files. This will help you automate the > creation of your first test system, with that being a very minimal > system, as opposed to a bloated one. You can find that at > http://linuxvm.org/Patches/#autoinst > > Whether you use the Starter System (please, you won't regret it), or > you download the SLES10 SP1 DVD image yourself, look in the /docu/en/ > directory. You'll find two PDF files in there, named preparation.pdf > and startup.pdf. Look through those as well. > > Finally, this mailing list and IBMVM is likely to be your best > resources. Both lists are happy to help newcomers, so use them when > you need them. Don't bang your head on the wall too long before > asking for help, if it comes to that. > > > Mark Post > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:26:16 -0700 From: Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Where to begin? >>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 7:47 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bob molerio <[EMAIL PROTECTED] om> wrote:=20 > I wish I were in your shoes! > Lucky guy. There should be very little stopping you from at least doing an evaluation.= If you have the minimal hardware resources available, everything else is = available for a trial at no cost. SLES is available, with 180 days of = maintenance. RHEL is available for (I think) 30 or 60 days. IBM has even = installed IFLs and real storage for trials. Mark Post ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ------------------------------ End of LINUX-390 Digest - 14 Dec 2007 to 15 Dec 2007 (#2007-308) **************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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