So far your approach is good. See some comments below.

Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote:
Thanks to everyone that responded to my original hand holding request.
With everyone?s response we were able to install z/VM 5.3 as a second
level guest to our z/VM V5.1. We also applied the latest RSU maintenance
and have performed backups of our 5.3 system.

We are now looking to migrate our users (system programmers). Remember, we
only use z/VM for Linux guest only. I was going to migrate (cut and paste)
our z/VM 5.1 guest directory entries into our z/VM 5.3 user direct and
perform a DIRECTXA which should work. We only have about 20. But. . . . we
have some sharing concerns.

Yes, copy the user entries from the old directory to the new directory.


For example: I want to cut the following entry from user direct on z/VM
5.1 and paste it in user direct on z/VM 5.3 and put it online.

USER X062PEA ******** 64M 100M ABCDEFG
   INCLUDE IBMDFLT
   ACCOUNT 1 SYSPROG
   IPL CMS
   MACH XA
   OPTION MAINTCCW LNKS LNKE LNKNOPAS
   LINK TCPMAINT 0592 0592 RR
   MDISK 0191 3390 11 5 VMUSR0 MR
   MDISK 0199 3390 31 100 VMUSR0 RR

Volume VMUSR0 looks like the following under our current 5.1 system:

DASD 6815 CP SYSTEM VMUSR0   13

Here are the questions.

Can I attach 6815 to my second level z/VM 5.3 guest and then logon with
x062pea or do I need to detach it to our first level z/VM 5.1 system.

I would use a link to a full pack minidisk to give your second level guest 
access to the disk. If
you use link then both first and second level users can access different 
minidisks on the disk at
the same time. If you use detach and attach then you can not have users on both 
systems at the same
time.


Are they any sharing concerns that I need to be aware of?

Do not have the same user log on to both first and second level at the same 
time. Two users should
not have write access to a minidisk at one time. In your example minidisk 0199 
is read only so it
doesn't matter how many users have it. However, minidisk 0191 is set so that it 
will get a write
access to the minidisk if no one else has one when it logs on. But, it will get 
read only access if
someone else (at the same level on this lpar) has write access. If you are an 
experienced VM systems
programmer you would have set up your machine to propagate the protection 
across lpars  and levels.
If you are not experienced enough to do this then be careful not to have two 
write links at the same
time.


Our final z/VM 5.3 test will be ipling it in a separate LPAR. Are their
additional sharing concerns I have to worry about?

If you followed my advice to use link instead of attach then there is no change 
in sharing concerns
when you run both VMs in lpars instead of one under the other. If you were 
using attach when running
in one lpar when you bring it up in a second lpar you will have the disk 
attached to both VM at the
same time. That introduces all the concerns that you would have if you used 
link.


Anthing that will get us on the right track is appreciated. We want to
make sure that we do not cause problems with our production z/VM,
especially over the long holiday.

Thanks as always.

Peter

Remember, we are old MVSers but very young VMers. Go slow.

Right, that is why I didn't try to explain how to set up cross domain data 
sharing.

--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us

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