On Thursday, May 22, 2008 at 11:38 AM Wayne Driscoll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The requirement that a version upgrade requires a full re-install and
then
> copying of the data is one of the big issues I see with bringing Linux
into
> a System z shop and having experienced z folks work on it.  For z/OS or
> z/VM, you rarely (closer to never but...) have to move application data
over
> in order to build a new OS.  There are systems that have been migrated
from
> MVS/SP on 24 bit hardware that are today running z/OS on 64 bit
hardware,
> and the data hasn't needed to be moved.

The comparison is not, I believe, between traditional mainframe operating
systems and Linux, it's between Linux on the mainframe and Linux on
distributed systems.  I mean, on distributed Linux systems you will use
the same criteria to decide to upgrade or re-install as you do on zLinux.
Treat them the same in that respect and all will be well.

The machines do not have any magic zDust (tm) to enhance Linux just
because it's on the mainframe.

But that in no way devalues the economics of server consolidation.  Sure,
it raises the obvious comparisons, but that's a Good Thing, providing
impetus for improvement.  If zPeople (tm) are complaining about the
upgrade paths in Linux, then it seems they should use that when figuring
out what levels of staffing they need, not as a reason to avoid Linux
altogether.  They are cutting off their noses just to spite their faces,
as it were.

And, finally, I would suggest that if Linux were developed in 1965, it
would have evolved to the point where z/OS and z/VM are with respect to
compatibility and upgrades.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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