On 11/15/08 8:28 PM, "Jeff Savit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A similar machine was the Lilith, created at
> ETH Zurich, and oriented around Modula-2. I never saw one personally,
> but I recall reading that it had a very stylish teak wood cabinet!

Very heavy, as well. Takes two *strong* people to move one. Takes a serious
cart to move one very far.

> Anyhow, language based processors seem to be a seductive design pattern
> that hasn't really gained momentum for general purpose computing.

Don't forget the Xerox D-machines and the Symbolics, and the LMI machines as
well. Symbolics still has a lot of applications in DOD space, and there are
still hundreds of D-machines and D-machine descendants in the space program.

> Anyone else want to 'fess up to having worked with UCSD Pascal or Modula-2?

Many, many hours with both. And p-System FORTRAN, and the p-Writing Tools
package developed at UCSD, which was a brilliant set of writing assistant
gadgets for teaching technical writing, and an ancestor of Google Apps by
marriage.  Modula, less time, but contributed a fair amount of doc kvetching
to the CMS Modula port.

P-System was more than just the languages -- the whole environment was
pretty slick. It had a very decent editor and (if you liked Lotus 123), a
fairly intuitive interface. It'd be a great start for a very lightweight
Java OS that actually could be useful.

-- db

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