This presentation might be of some interest to those looking
at the CMM-1 and CMM2/CMMA options:
http://www.linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE113/S9272lj.pdf

Enjoy.

DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hall, Ken (GTS)" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: When will CMMA be removed from the kernel?
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:45:29 -0400

> We tried CMM-1 a month or two ago on a single guest.
> Without VMRM, there's nothing for it to talk to, so it
> does nothing. (It works by having VMRM send it notices to
> decrease working set size.)
>
> With it enabled on one guest, on a machine slightly memory
> constrained, it drove the memory utilization of the guest
> down to the point that it wouldn't run at all.  Obviously,
> it has to be enabled on a significant percentage of your
> guests to be useful.
>
> Most of ours are RHEL4 though, so (I believe) that's out
> of the question.  We're still evaluating.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] When will CMMA be removed from
> the kernel?
>
> Sam,
>
> > We load the CMM module via
> > /etc/sysconfig/kernel
> > MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT="vmcp cmm"
> >
> > So what is it that we have turned on?
> Good question. You've turned on CMM1 on Linux, but as I
> understand it, there must also be a *collaborative* piece
> enabled on z/VM.
>
> In both the latest Virtualization Cookbooks
> (ibm.com/redbooks), and the SLES 10 SP2 "read-only" root
> paper (linuxvm.org/present), there is a writeup on how to
> use CMM1 (much of this section was written by Ray Mansell
> - thanks Ray!). Search for "Enabling Collaborative Memory
> Management". It discusses how to also enable the
> collaborative piece: VMRM
> on z/VM.
>
> I'm curious that Barton wrote on August 28th:
> > VMRM has taken so much storage away from servers that
> > the server or application dies.  I would HIGHLY
> recommend against using it.
>
> But he wrote today:
> > CMM-1 has very positive results
>
> So does CMM-1 have positive results without the
> collaborative piece? Barton, could you point to some
> numbers showing CMM-1 with positive results without VMRM?
> Did you use a different z/VM collaborative piece? Thanks.
>
> "Mike MacIsaac" <[email protected]>   (845) 433-7061
>
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