Only lurking on this list, and often getting a bit behind in catching up
with the daily digest, I may have missed a post mentioning that this
summer's CA distribution of  VM:Operator r3.0 has support for syslog and
syslogd (works with syslogd or syslog-ng).  The syslogd support allows
VM:Operator to act as a collector or sender of syslog messages.

Given that z/VM hosts the Linux on System z guests, the z/VM system
certainly has a direct effect on the Linux guests; and one Linux guest can
certainly affect all the others.  That being the case, I'd rather have all
the Linux guests send their syslog messages to VM:Operator (could be IBM's
Operations Manager or even PROP) so that *ALL* the messages for anything
that can affect a guest appear on one place, right when they are being
displayed on the guests.

VM:Operator provides the means to display (VIEW) only a single guest's
messages, handy if there is no systemic problem.  But when "something"
appears to be wrong with one guest, being able to see messages from CP or
other guest z/VM concurrent with the problem report and diagnostic work is
a definite advantage over being blind to CP's actions and messages.

VM:Operator also provides the means to logon (passwords are masked) to the
disconnected guest, entering commands and seeing the replies from the
guests on the VM:Operator console.  That helps eliminate the problems
caused by logging onto the vm userid's virtual console directly (most
often, a "BAD" thing to do, opening the guest up to unintended
consequences).

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.


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Date:    Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:01 -0400
From:    Richard Troth <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Has anyone looked into a "console server"

But ... just to be clear, Mike ... there are two "console server"
concepts in this thread.  What has been discussed is LOG servers and
collection of virtual console traffic, and then also CONTROL servers
(terminal servers) where you get a command shell without the 3215
pain.

Regarding log servers, to the extent that the (Linux) kernel is
working and has network connectivity, I recommend SYSLOG.  No reason
VM cannot slurp-up SYSLOG traffic.  There have been numerous
implementations (including Arty, Neale, me; REXX, POSIX, and
Pipelined; and sorry if I forgot someone), the latest being IBM's
Operations Manager.

Regarding terminal servers using IUCV ... just one word ...
ahhhhhhhh!!!  Not exactly what some of us thought it would be, but
nice; very nice.

-- R;   <><



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