Hi all,

Thank you for your replies. I think it is clear now that the Sun 3510 FC 'JBOD' 
box cannot work with zseries FCP (the JBOD version has no controller so it is 
just an FC-AL string). A standard 3510 may work. Looking at other posts I see 
that some of the Clariion devices do work although not officially supported by 
EMC.

 I am still interested to hear of any details of specific configurations of 
'mid-range' disk systems which are working successfully with zFCP, even if not 
officially supported i.e. not EMC Symmetrix, IBM DS6000/DS8000, Sun Storagetek 
9900 or other system which supports zseries native FICON and CKD disks in 
addition to FCP. (Reply off-list in confidence if you wish). 

The a development shop which has lots of different platforms and OS 
versions/releases for testing purposes. The usual zseries reilience 
requirements do not apply and of course we have pukka zseries DASD for the 
important stuff.

Keith




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> Hi ... Does anyone have any experience of using FCP-attached non-IBM
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> The IBM documentation I can find says that certain IBM and Hitachi
> disks are supported. Other manufacturers have disks systems
> specifically designed for zseries, which tend to be expensive.
> Presentations on zseries SCSI over FCP often say that 'other disks
> may work but are not supported' . I would like to try out SCSI over
> FCP point-to-point with some some disks which have been used with a
> Sun unix server - specifically Sun Storedge 3510FC in a JBOD
> configuration. When I activate the channel there is a 'sequence
> time-out'. I would like to know if anyone has used  'unsupported'
> SCSI disks in this way. The zseries machine is for development use
> only and I am not concerned with the usual zseries resilience issues.
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Keith,

We haven't tested Sun Storedge 3510 FC, in fact I've never seen one.
Anyway, I'd double check these:

Make sure that the optics and fibre are consistent.  Either all long wave,
or all short wave.  No mixing.
Make sure that the channel is really connected to the sun storage.  I
know, I know it sounds obvious, but when fibres disappear under the floor,
or go through patch panels, it can be confusing.
Make sure that the pchid that you think is fcp is really defined as fcp in
the IOCDS, and not ficon.
Use the "analyze link error statistics block" panel on the SE to see if
you're getting a bunch of bit errors.
There are 2 flavors of point-to-point out there in the wild.  We support
the official point-to-point topology defined in fc-fs.  We do not support
that special case of arbitrated loop where there are 2 nl_ports.

There isn't any firmware to prevent you from using unsupported storage. We
don't usually hear about unsupported storage configs., but the little bit
that we have heard is mostly EMC Clariion.

Regards,

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
[email protected]

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