Wow... what a amazing high number of dasds... Makes me crazy...

Some time ago I've seen a box with 400GB storage in 3390-3, and each dasd
was divided in 3. Linux loaded them all, but take some 30 minutes to boot.
But 8TB is a whole different figure... I guess your boot would take half a
day... If fsck kicks in, half a month...
In zVM you can have 64k addresses (0000 to FFFF), and that would be more
than enough for you. But as Linux uses 8-bit for device minor numbers, you
will end up having at most 256 PV's in each VG, as Mark said. AND you can
have at most 99 VGs.

<speculation>
What about building a JBOD? Or a LVM JBOD?
What about a RAID-0?
What about Drivespace? Stacker? No, just kidding...
</speculation>

Really, can't you find any way to reformat your storage to create mod 54's,
and export/import the database? Messing with such a large pool of dasds may
work, but may end up working as good as Gnome 2.2 runs on my ancient Pentium
166. Yeah, I have one and IT DOES run Gnome...

1200 dasds? Sounds crazy...

Mauro
http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Lee Stewart <
lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net> wrote:

> Thanks to all....
>
> That's enough to sway the sales guys...    And alas, we only have mod 9s
>  to work with.   If we had mod 54s, I'd consider it...   But there is
> the SAN space....
>
> Thanks,
> Lee
>
>
> Marcy Cortes wrote:
>
>> First, give up on mod 9's and do 54's for that stuff :)
>>
>> Our biggest is about 5TB.  It's about 110 mod 54's.   It's divided into 6
>> file systems on 6 different volume groups.   (Not a DB, but just files).
>>
>> We did adjust the boot time interval of fsck so that all 6 don't get
>> fsck'd on the same startup.  Takes about 10 minutes on a file system at boot
>> time (and I don't know if that is because of the size or the number of
>> files).
>>
>> I don't think 8TB would be a problem.  I'm not sure I'd put it all in the
>> same volume group though.   There probably isn't much of a need to, though,
>> with a DB.
>>
>>
>> Marcy
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lee
>> Stewart
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:54 PM
>> To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
>> Subject: [LINUX-390] Max # 3390s
>>
>> Hi all...
>> We're working with a customer that someone has suggested to them that as
>> we move their Oracle d/b from brand x to Linux on z, that we also move
>> the actual d/b from their old SAN box(es) to mainframe disk (3390
>> images).   The catch is that the d/b is about 8TB, and to my rough math
>> that seems like 1100-1200 3390 mod 9s.
>>
>> Does Linux even support that many DASD devices?   Does LVM?
>>
>> And yes, we are trying to reverse that decision and put the Linux OSs
>> and Oracle code and swap space on 3390s, but put the d/b and DBA work
>> spaces on the SAN (where big things fit better)....
>>
>> Lee
>> --
>>
>> Lee Stewart, Senior SE
>> Sirius Computer Solutions
>> Phone: (303) 996-7122
>> Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com
>> Web:   www.siriuscom.com
>>
>>

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