Thank you, Ladies and gentlemen, I've learned something new today.  I'm
going to have to figure out how to do this one day so I can provide
fail-over support for the other OSA.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Aria Bamdad <[email protected]> wrote:

> You can have multiple subnets on one segment.  For example, you can have
> 10.1.1.x and 192.168.1.x packets using the same segment of ethernet.  There
> is nothing that prevents you from doing it and it is not uncommon.
>
> Aria
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Mark Pace
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/VM and z/OS sharing OSAs?
> >
> > Okay - I'm going to show my ignorance here.  How can you have multiple
> > subnets on the same OSA port?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Marcy Cortes
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > "Since they are on the same port they are obviously on the same
> > subnet."
> > >
> > > Well no, you can have lots of subnets on the same port.
> > >
> > > But yes, you can share them with z/OS if you have to.
> > >
> > > Marcy
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Mark
> > > Pace
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:59 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM and z/OS sharing OSAs?
> > >
> > > I don't know a thing about the Cisco switch, but I have 3 LPARs, 1
> > z/VM and
> > > 2 z/OS, sharing the same OSA Express-3 port.  Since they are on the
> > same
> > > port they are obviously on the same subnet.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Harder, Pieter <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't know about z10 (don't have one), but we run with two OSA
> > > 1000BaseT
> > > > as a failover pair shared between two z/OS and one z/VM/IFL lpars.
> > The
> > > > outside is one /24 network and we gave out individual host
> > addresses and
> > > use
> > > > a VSWITCH with two RDEVs on the z/VM side as well. The OSAs keep
> > track of
> > > > who is where and we never had a problem with this setup.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Pieter Harder
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Van: Linux on 390 Port [[email protected]] namens Tom
> > Burkholder [
> > > > [email protected]]
> > > > Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juni 2010 21:19
> > > > Aan: [email protected]
> > > > Onderwerp: z/VM and z/OS sharing OSAs?
> > > >
> > > > z/VMers,
> > > >
> > > > My disclaimer is I'm not a networking engineer but I have a zVM and
> > > > networking question.
> > > >
> > > > I can provide more details, etc, but is anybody running z/VM and
> > z/OS
> > > lpars
> > > > on the same z10 and "SHR"ing the OSAs?  We originally setup the
> > z/VM
> > > > proof-of-concept with VSWITCH but a single OSA to a CISCO switch.
> > Other
> > > > than a potential single point of failure, no problem, things work
> > well.
> > >  We
> > > > have no spare OSAs (and would rather not purchase) but on the same
> > z10 we
> > > > have a test z/OS lpar with two (2) OSAs being used connected to two
> > other
> > > > CISCO switches (interconnected to each other for z/OS, but not to
> > the
> > > > current CISCO switch with the VSWITCH).
> > > >
> > > > If anybody is sharing OSA's with z/VM and z/OS lpars I'd be
> > interested in
> > > > getting some more information or ideas if possible.  One of my
> > biggest
> > > > concern is being able to keep the same 192.168.xxx.yyy currently
> > being
> > > used
> > > > by z/VM on the single OSA onto the other OSAs/Switches if possible.
> > > >
> > > > Kind of a high-level diagram of what we got:
> > > > zVMa lpar chpid 09 -------- CISCO switch XXXXXX using
> > 192.168.xxx.yyy
> > > > addresses.
> > > > zOSa  lpar chpid 05 -------  CISCO switch ZZZZZ-a\
> > > > zOSa lpar chpid 08 --------  CISCO switch ZZZZZ-b/
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to SHR chpids 05/08, not screw up existing zOSa, be able
> > to
> > > > configure z/VM with the same 192.168.xxx.yyy addresses and update
> > > > VSWITCH/controllers to use active/standby on chipds 05/08 (and free
> > up
> > > chpid
> > > > 09 OSA).
> > > >
> > > > I found the following pdf  to be a good source, but I need some
> > more
> > > > information or help from the network side (e.g. can we share and
> > keep the
> > > > same 192.168.xxx.yyy subnet)
> > > > http://linuxvm.org/present/misc/vswitch.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any help, assistance, or ideas,
> > > > Tom Burkholder
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