Hi Eric,
When I do a display of the an alias I receive the following
q 7000                                      
HCPQDV040E Device 7000 does not exist       
Ready(00040); T=0.01/0.01 08:11:59          

To me it appears that these devices are not being detected for some
reason. The question is why.
I will work closely with the HCD people to try to determine this. One
thing he has told me is that the base is on MSS 0 while the aliases are
on MSS 1. I do not know if that would have any impact or not. We are
running on a z196.

Regards, Mike

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Eric R Farman
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

Alan said:

> Instead of querying the control unit, you need to QUERY PAV ALL.
HyperPAVs
> are not associated with a base device until an I/O is performed, and
that
> association only lasts for the duration of that I/O.  Hence the 
> failure
of
> QUERY CU DASD ALIAS to give you anything useful.  Instead, HyperPAVs 
> are in "pools" that are selected by CP for association with a base 
> device in the same pool.

While it is true that the association between base-and-alias only occurs
for the duration of an I/O, the Q CU ALIAS command will show the
HyperPAV aliases just fine:

q dasd details 1580
1580  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0E, VOLSER = JS1580, CYLS = 71232
      CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
           -SUBSYSTEM   Y    Y   Y   -    N       N
              -DEVICE   Y    -   -   Y    N       N
      DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = --
      DUPLEX DETAILS: --
      HYPERPAV DETAILS: BASE VOLUME IN POOL 26
      CU DETAILS: SSID = 0227, CUNUM = 1580 q cu 0227 dev DASD CU 0227
DEVICES:
1580 1581 1582 1583 1584 1585 1586 1587
1588 1589 158A 158B 158C 158D 158E
q cu 0227 al
DASD CU 0227 ALIASES:
1586 1587 1588 1589 158A 158B 158C 158D
158E
q dasd details 1586
1586  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER =, CYLS = 0
      CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
           -SUBSYSTEM   Y    Y   Y   -    N       N
              -DEVICE   N    -   -   N    N       N
      DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = --
      DUPLEX DETAILS: --
      HYPERPAV DETAILS: ALIAS VOLUME IN POOL 26
      CU DETAILS: SSID = 0227, CUNUM = 1580

Mark mentioned...

> The Q DASD DETAILS does not contain the HYPERPAV DETAILS ...snip...
> Looks like the device is not even detecting HyperPAV status.

This appears to be the case to me as well.  A base device is only marked
as a base when we find at least one alias that is associated with either
the base subchannel (PAV) or the base subchannel's pool (HyperPAV).
Until then, the responses you see for Q PAV, Q CU, Q DASD DETAILS, etc.,
can look like you have described here.  If you have the device string
defined to HCD, what happens if you query one of the supposed alias
subchannels?
Perhaps they still need to be varied online?

Regards,
            Eric

Eric Farman
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott, NY

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