The Red Hat Society comes from a poem by Jenny Joseph It begins like this: Warning
When I am an old woman I shall wear purple With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me. And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter. Val Phillips -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LINUX-390 automatic digest system Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 12:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: LINUX-390 Digest - 3 Jul 2012 to 4 Jul 2012 (#2012-144) There are 10 messages totalling 516 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Red Hat Indeed (8) 2. Router/routing issues 3. Bad joke mobile app for System z ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:43:53 -0700 From: David Kreuter <[email protected]> Subject: Red Hat Indeed Happy 4th to all my U.S. brethren.=0AHere in Canada it is a work day. I'm t= raveling to Ottawa this a.m.=0AI start chatting with the lady next to me. S= he tells me she is just back=0Afrom Las Vegas where she was attending a Red= Hat conference.=0ASo naturally my ears picked up. Linux I say? =0AShe then= picks up a bag, unties it ... and removes a hand made=0Ared hat with all s= orts of veils and tassels and stuff...=0AIt looked like something you might= where at graduation.=0Aapparently there is a red hat society throughout at= least North America=0Awhere they=0Amake ... ready for it? Red Hats. She ha= s a monthly get together to do=0Athis and=0Athey have an annual conference.= =0AAnd for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up!=0ADav= id Kreuter=0A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:06:12 -0600 From: Scott Rohling <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed I wonder how the red hat ladies do with fedoras? Their conference sounds like a natural for promoting RHEL.. go dutch :) Scott Rohling On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:43 PM, David Kreuter <[email protected]>wrote: > Happy 4th to all my U.S. brethren. > Here in Canada it is a work day. I'm traveling to Ottawa this a.m. > I start chatting with the lady next to me. She tells me she is just back > from Las Vegas where she was attending a Red Hat conference. > So naturally my ears picked up. Linux I say? > She then picks up a bag, unties it ... and removes a hand made > red hat with all sorts of veils and tassels and stuff... > It looked like something you might where at graduation. > apparently there is a red hat society throughout at least North America > where they > make ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do > this and > they have an annual conference. > And for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up! > David Kreuter > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:52:25 -0600 From: Mark Post <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed >>> On 7/4/2012 at 06:43 PM, David Kreuter <[email protected]> = wrote:=20 > apparently there is a red hat society throughout at least North America > where they > make ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do > this and > they have an annual conference. > And for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up! I know you're not. I've run into them before myself. It seems to be more = of a Southern US thing, since I've mainly seen them when at WAVV in = Chattanooga. It's always a slightly surreal experience. :) Mark Post ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:06:25 -0400 From: "Graeme St.Clair" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed <delurk> Not necessarily! There are several flourishing groups right here in central PA - indeed I know one lady in our former church. Purple is also favoured. I think they even have an annual night out at our local minor league baseball team. GFStC, Altoona, PA. </delurk> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 7:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed >>> On 7/4/2012 at 06:43 PM, David Kreuter <[email protected]> >>> wrote: > apparently there is a red hat society throughout at least North America > where they > make ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do > this and > they have an annual conference. > And for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up! I know you're not. I've run into them before myself. It seems to be more of a Southern US thing, since I've mainly seen them when at WAVV in Chattanooga. It's always a slightly surreal experience. :) Mark Post ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:14:59 -0700 From: Dave Roeser <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed My Mom and many of her friends in Old Hickory TN (all in their late 70's early 80's) are in the Red Hat Society....so I know you are not making it up. I only get back there every 10 yrs or so (I am in Seattle) and in 2001 I gave them a couple of dozen of the Red Hat Linux bumper stickers and they put them on their cars. My Mom has been asked several times if she uses Linux. Dave /"in a world without gates, who needs windoze?"/ On 7/4/2012 3:43 PM, David Kreuter wrote: > Happy 4th to all my U.S. brethren. > Here in Canada it is a work day. I'm traveling to Ottawa this a.m. > I start chatting with the lady next to me. She tells me she is just back > from Las Vegas where she was attending a Red Hat conference. > So naturally my ears picked up. Linux I say? > She then picks up a bag, unties it ... and removes a hand made > red hat with all sorts of veils and tassels and stuff... > It looked like something you might where at graduation. > apparently there is a red hat society throughout at least North America > where they > make ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do > this and > they have an annual conference. > And for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up! > David Kreuter > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- Dave Roeser Product Manager DINO-Software Corporation http://www.dino-software.com 1-800.480.DINO 253.568.6508 (direct) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:58:17 +0800 From: John Summerfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed On 07/05/12 08:14, Dave Roeser wrote: > My Mom and many of her friends in Old Hickory TN (all in their late 70's > early 80's) are in the Red Hat Society....so I know you are not making > it up. I only get back there every 10 yrs or so (I am in Seattle) and in > 2001 I gave them a couple of dozen of the Red Hat Linux bumper stickers > and they put them on their cars. My Mom has been asked several times if > she uses Linux. > > Dave > > /"in a world without gates, who needs windoze?"/ > > > On 7/4/2012 3:43 PM, David Kreuter wrote: >> Happy 4th to all my U.S. brethren. >> Here in Canada it is a work day. I'm traveling to Ottawa this a.m. >> I start chatting with the lady next to me. She tells me she is just back >> from Las Vegas where she was attending a Red Hat conference. >> So naturally my ears picked up. Linux I say? >> She then picks up a bag, unties it ... and removes a hand made >> red hat with all sorts of veils and tassels and stuff... >> It looked like something you might where at graduation. >> apparently there is a red hat society throughout at least North America >> where they >> make ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do >> this and >> they have an annual conference. >> And for those of you who know (of) me ... I am not making this up! >> David Kreuter My sister has been one for years. She lives around here: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?num=100&hl=en&safe=active&biw=1397&bih=876&q=high+wycombe+western+australia&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x2a32b8e0a82ececf:0x504f0b535df4650,High+Wycombe+WA&gl=au&sa=X&ei=Qub0T77gCueTiAf9w8jZBg&ved=0CA4Q8gEwAQ http://www.inmycommunity.com.au/groups/Red-Hat-Ladies/180/notice/Are-you-interested-in-joining-the-Red-Hat-Society/467/ -- Cheers John -- spambait [email protected] [email protected] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:04:50 +0800 From: John Summerfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Router/routing issues On 06/07/12 22:10, Mark Pace wrote: > Within Guest2 - the router - Yes > misvpn:~ # sudo cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > 1 I prefer to sysctl to list this stuff, it's what you should use to change values and you can modify its config file to make changes permanent. -- Cheers John -- spambait [email protected] [email protected] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:22:01 +0800 From: John Summerfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad joke mobile app for System z On 06/09/12 23:15, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > Quick Reference mobile app for IBM System z > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/mobileapp/ > > <quote> > New Quick Reference for IBM System z mobile app > Access critical System z information =E2=80=94 from the convenience of = your > Smartphone > The free Quick Reference for IBM System z mobile app, now available for > Android, BlackBerry and iPhone, provides quick and easy access to the > latest System z product information, success stories, social networks, > and z experts. > > Key features: > > Latest product highlights, descriptions, and specifications > Client success stories > Automatic content updates > Core product content available without connectivity > Access to relevant social networks, venues, and z experts > One-touch communication with IBM > Links to more System z information on the Web > Sign-up options for additional exciting updates via e-mail or SMS > </quote> > > ...can't see it replace shelves/bookcases of manuals, though it's a bit > more portable. > > Now, having looked at it, it's hard to know where to start. > > It's for Android, BlackBerry, iPhone -- so it wastes most iPad screen > real estate. Much 1x size text is unreadable; at 2x it's blurry and > cartoonish. > > Has buttons Products, Case Studies, Communities, Favorites, Contact Us. > > Click Products, What's New, "New and updated products" gets > announcements from 7/11/2011, 7/12/2011, and 10/12/2011. Great for > nostalgia, not so useful for current information. > > Click Communities, Experts, get one expert: Willie Favero. > > It seems an interesting idea done badly, then forgotten... > I can understand the possible merit of a tool for comparing prices at=20 the supermarket one's in with what prices are available elsewhere, the=20 information is useful immediately. However, I wouldn't think anyone buys zGear so often or with so little=20 thought. It's decades since I was involved with any of that sort of=20 equipment, back then buying and selling such stuff was generally=20 preceded by reevaluation of existing facilities, going round one more=20 time to see whether a little more could be squeezed out of it, reviewing=20 what we're doing today and what we might want to do tomorrow,=20 considering alternatives, evaluating them and taking some of them for a=20 test run and, eventually choosing something. I'm going through that sort of process myself at the moment, considering=20 a tablet. I've been aware of them, now I'm updating my knowledge and=20 evaluating alternatives. I don't see how a mobile app would help me buy computer equipment. --=20 Cheers John -- spambait [email protected] [email protected] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 18:23:46 -0700 From: Ed Long <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed Our local -Boston -favorite dive bar is called the Red Hat. They don't do n= o Linux. The name refers to a lady of the night's chapeau=A0 in a mural on = the back wall.=0A=0A=0ASent from Yahoo! Mail on Android=0A=0A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:59:35 -0700 From: Tony Saul <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Red Hat Indeed The Red Hat ladies have been in The Simpsons, so they must be famous!! (the= y had Marge steal from Mr Burns).=0ARegards,=0ATony=0A=0A=0A_______________= _________________=0AFrom: Graeme St.Clair <[email protected]>= =0ATo: [email protected] =0ASent: Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:36 AM=0ASub= ject: Re: Red Hat Indeed=0A=0A<delurk>=0A=0ANot necessarily!=A0 There are s= everal flourishing groups right here in central=0APA - indeed I know one la= dy in our former church.=A0 Purple is also favoured.=0AI think they even ha= ve an annual night out at our local minor league=0Abaseball team.=0A=0AGFSt= C, Altoona, PA.=0A=0A</delurk>=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom= : Mark Post=0ASent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 7:52 PM=0ATo: [email protected]= IST.EDU=0ASubject: Re: Red Hat Indeed=0A=0A>>> On 7/4/2012 at 06:43 PM, Dav= id Kreuter <[email protected]>=0A>>> wrote:=0A> apparently there is= a red hat society throughout at least North America=0A> where they=0A> mak= e ... ready for it? Red Hats. She has a monthly get together to do=0A> this= and=0A> they have an annual conference.=0A> And for those of you who know = (of) me ... I am not making this up!=0A=0AI know you're not.=A0 I've run in= to them before myself.=A0 It seems to be more=0Aof a Southern US thing, sin= ce I've mainly seen them when at WAVV in=0AChattanooga.=A0 It's always a sl= ightly surreal experience.=A0 :)=0A=0A=0AMark Post=0A=0A-------------------= ---------------------------------------------------=0AFor LINUX-390 subscri= be / signoff / archive access instructions,=0Asend email to [email protected]= IST.EDU with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or=0Avisit=0Ahttp://www.marist.edu= /htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390=0A-----------------------------------------------= -----------------------=0AFor more information on Linux on System z, visit= =0Ahttp://wiki.linuxvm.org/=0A=0A------------------------------------------= ----------------------------=0AFor LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive = access instructions,=0Asend email to [email protected] with the messag= e: INFO LINUX-390 or visit=0Ahttp://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390= =0A----------------------------------------------------------------------= =0AFor more information on Linux on System z, visit=0Ahttp://wiki.linuxvm.o= rg/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ------------------------------ End of LINUX-390 Digest - 3 Jul 2012 to 4 Jul 2012 (#2012-144) ************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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