On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Spinler
<[email protected]> wrote:
 ...
> Several of the things I've seen mention of as specific Z advantages in
> this thread, though, are just as easily doable on other platforms.

Right.  And what Rodger said about that.

Some points come from the HW architecture.  Some come from z/VM as an
implementation.  Agreed, it is robust and thorough.  I depend on it!
But when preaching to different congregations, we need to be accurate
and well versed.

As a technician, I want to crack the hood and know the realities
inside.  I value the paint job.  Looks sell.  But looks aren't
long-term.  I value the drive-train more.

As a group, we need to enumerate the actual strengths of z/VM.  If the
other implementations can do the same thing, great!  And where they
cannot, I want to force their hand.

> For instance someone mentioned fast cloning on Z; however I know a guy
> here who has a virtualbox on top of Solaris/x86   ...

My co-presenter demonstrated the opposite last night.  Ironic.  And cool!

-- R;   <><

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