On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Rick Troth wrote:

I would like to publicly ask RedHat to work harder at interoperability.
Some older scripts seem to work, but I/we cannot invoke them the old
way.  Breakage.

The advent of 'systemd' and other fixing-the-wrong-problem
solutions have made it more difficult to have a
common-to-Unix startup. ...

Wearing my LSB hat, my response to this has to be:

        Have you filed bugs at Red Hat's tracker, for each
        non-conformance you have found ?

If not, please do so and feel free to add my email address in
the 'cc' field, as I track these.  Indeed a 'red-hatter' has
started hanging out in the #LSB IRC channel on freenode, and
so an 'easyfix' may happen

I think you overstate the matter as to systemd.  With the
advent of systemd, there is an express mandate that systemd is
to honor LSB conformant headers in the top of the initscipts.
This makes it easy to avoid pain with systemd (there will be
plenty anyway, but the move of the Linux kernel to udev has
forced Unix's hand)

The general change in computing to 'appearing' and
'disappearing' storage devices (think, USB datasticks) and
network devices (think, moving around between wireless
networks) have pretty well exposed the need for an update to
the older 'init' model

-- Russ herrold

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