I don't think your seeing labels of 'FREE' - I think your seeing
uninitialized DASD.    What does Q DASD DETAILS aaaa    show for VOLSER=?
 Maybe we were confusing the term 'allocation'..   in any case - this DASD
would appear not to be used at all.  VARY OFF aaaa and VARY ON aaaa and
then QUERY again to be sure.   But if it shows FREE ..  it is probably just
not initialized for use.

Scott Rohling


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Cameron Seay <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is it a reliable method to label the volumes as FREE when you create them,
> but when you allocate them change the label to something else?  That is the
> method we are using.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Alan Altmark <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Available dasd is in the eye of the beholder.  Here is how I look at the
> > world.
> >
> > If the dasd volume is in your LPAR's I/O configuration, it's "visible."
> >
> > If a visible volume has been assigned to your VM LPAR it is "available".
> >
> > If an available dasd volume has been formatted so as to remove any
> > residual data and assigned a label, it is "eligible."
> >
> > If an eligible volume has been placed in the pool of dasd that you take
> > from to satisfy system or virtual machine needs, it is "unallocated."
> >
> > When an unallocated volume is subsequently allocated for use by CP, it is
> > a "CP-owned" volume.
> >
> > When an unallocated volume is allocated for use by one or more virtual
> > machines, it is a "user" volume.
> >
> > A volume that is currently neither attached to SYSTEM nor a user is FREE
> > according to QUERY DASD.  You cannot reliably infer any of the above
> roles
> > if it says FREE.
> >
> > For example a dedicated user volume will show FREE until the user who has
> > it logs on.  Likewise for DEVNO minidisks.
> >
> > And as Scott said, you may have visible dasd that are not available.
> >
> > So it takes a good process to reliably track the life of a volume.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> > IBM Lab Services
> >
> > -----------------
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cameron Seay [[email protected]]
> > Sent: 06/21/2014 09:18 PM AST
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Which DASD is free
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Scott. What information is needed.  There has to be a way to
> > determine which volumes you can use.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Scott Rohling <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry - should have been 'DASD which is currently NOT in use by a user
> or
> > > the system'..
> > >
> > > Scott Rohling
> > >
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