I would concur with Rob's recommendation to measure.  Some of our app team were 
shocked that they could get higher throughput by driving more workload to a 
single node at our F5 layer. This caused problems on the x86 deployment. 

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> On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Rob van der Heij <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Also look at performance data and see whether it makes sense what you want
> to do. I have seen installations that were spreading the load over a dozen
> front-end servers all running on the same z/VM image, with a lot of the
> requests just queue for the back-end database. You can burn a lot of
> resources just to determine which server should handle the request, and may
> achieve little when they share the resources.
> 
> In an architecture from the discrete world, it is not always obvious which
> risks are mitigated by what part of the solution. When you transpose that
> to a Linux on z/VM implementation, some of the infrastructure failures do
> not apply or may not be covered by the solution (eg "hardware fail" is not
> fixed by using another Linux guest on the same z/VM LPAR). Using multiple
> members on different machines in an SSI cluster covers differnet issues.
> 
> Duplicating servers that hold no application data is fairly simple, but
> things get hairy when you duplicate databases. Business may well justify a
> HA setup, but remember this is not commodity hardware where servers fail
> for trivial reasons. One of the reasons for using z Systems is that you
> sometimes can avoid some of the complexity that comes with redundancy on
> higher levels in the design.
> 
> When possible, I want to drive the virtual machines at their most efficient
> load. When a single server could do, it's not more efficient to spread it
> over a dozen sharing the same resources. Do some measurements to find the
> healthy load for your application, and monitor usage for those values and
> add resources when needed.
> 
> Rob van der Heij
> http://www.velocitysoftware.com/
> 
>> On 13 March 2015 at 08:52, Berthold Gunreben <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Starting with SLES12, there is haproxy included in the HA part of SLES.
>> 
>> http://www.haproxy.org/
>> 
>> Berthold
>> 
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 19:10:07 +0000
>> "Stewart, Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone know of an IP “sprayer” for Linux on Z?  (To send
>>> arriving requests on to one of several servers, round robin or load
>>> balanced.)
>>> 
>>> Since this isn’t a WAS implementation, the DM with WAS isn’t a
>>> choice….
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lee
>>> 
>>> Lee Stewart ● VM System Support ● Visa ● Phone:  6(750)4601 -
>>> +1-303-389-4601 ● [email protected]
>>> 
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