Hi Bruce

A conversion piece that is frequently forgotten during VM upgrades is what
is your MDC (minidisk cache) setting?

Q MDC

The default (perhaps use to be) all storage was available.
Most of us set it to a smaller amount.
Once it has been set, it is set forever (unless a performance monitor tells
you to use a different about).  And hence, easily forgotten.

Those of us that run second level VM systems usually hit a "rude awaking"
when MDC settings are allowed to run "free and wild" <G>.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting


On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Davis, Jim [PRI-1PP] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Bruce
>
> I had to backout the 630 upgrade while they finished upgrading their apps
> to sles 11.4 which is running with very little paging if any at all under
> 540 with 4gb xstore and cmma=on in kernel parms.
>
> This Sunday I will try VM 630 again but without xstore and with 16GB of
> central storage.
>
> Someone else replied that cmma has been removed from sles 11 but I think I
> am using really using what is called cmm2.
>
> When we first started with sles 9 and vm530 the recommendations  from IBM
> were to let the linux swap to vdisk and only increase the vm size when
> swapping became excessive.  My linux clients have 2GB or less of storage
> and at least 3GB of swap to vdisk defined.
> The early write may be my problem as 630 would be writing all of the vdisk
> pages to aux storage before cmma would tell VM to throw away the page.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Bruce Hayden
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New Subscriber's first question.
>
> Hi Jim, welcome to the mailing list.
>
> z/VM 6.3 had many changes to memory management, and it will use more
> paging space.  For one, it will write pages out "early", meaning before it
> has to actually free up a page.  As part of that, XSTORE is no longer
> recommended and I'd suggest the next time you IPL, change the LPAR
> configuration to 16 GB of storage with no expanded storage.
>
> Without knowing more details on your VM and Linux configuration, it is
> hard to say why it is using so much more page space.  Did the size of the
> guests increase when you upgraded them to SLES 11?  The CMMA support in
> z/VM did not change between 5.4 and 6.3 but it may have changed in Linux
> from SLES
> 10 to SLES 11.
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Davis, Jim [PRI-1PP] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am a systems programmer at Primerica Life Insurance.
> > We have been running SLES linux under VM for nine years.
> > We only have four production VMs on one lpar using a single IFL.
> >
> > We will be installing a Z13 in Jan 2016 which has required me to
> > upgrade all SLES 10.3 VMs to SLES 11.4 and VM from 540 to 630.
> >
> > The VM lpar has 12GB of storage plus 4GB of xstore.
> > Under 540 I did not experience any paging to external VM page datasets.
> > CMMA=ON
> >
> > When I bring up VM 630, I see massive movement of pages to xstore and
> > then page outs to aux storage, filling up aux storage.
> > I have  increase aux storage to 3x but it keeps growing.
> >
> > It acts like CMMA is not functioning under VM 630.
> >
> > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> >
> >
> >
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