Ok - in our case we are doing flashcopy within the same storage subsystem..... we are not implementing PPRC but FLASHCOPY.
Scott Rohling On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > Scott, > > See the PPRCOPY DEFINESESSION and PPRCOPY POPULATESESSION commands. > > Thanks, > > Sam Cohen > > (217) 862-9227 (office) > (602) 327-2134 (cell) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Scott Rohling > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:19 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > Maybe we are talking about different things... you can establish > relationships between source/target volumes -- but I don't see anything > that let's you define a consistency group -- i.e. several volumes which > will be flashed at the exact moment in time. > > Scott Rohling > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > > > In the ICKDSF manual (http://www.ibm.com/support/ > > knowledgecenter/SSB27U_6.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ickug00/toc.htm), check > > out the FLASHCOPY and PPRCOPY commands. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sam Cohen > > > > (217) 862-9227 (office) > > (602) 327-2134 (cell) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > > Scott Rohling > > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 10:46 AM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > > > Please explain how to use ICKDSF to establish a consistency group and > > initiate a flashcopy .... I see no way to do it... > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > CSM (or command line on the SSCP (or whatever it's called these > > > days) can do it, as can ICKDSF on z/VM. > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > > > Date: 11/11/16 10:15 (GMT-07:00) > > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > > > > > I'm talking about initiating the flashcopy ... not mirroring > > solutions... > > > > > > > > > CSM let's you initiate flashcopy with consistency groups. z/VM can > > only > > > do serial FLASHCOPY commands... > > > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > > You don't need Copy Services Manager, you just need a storage > > > > subsystem capable and enabled for Global Mirror, which is > > > > independent and outside > > > of > > > > any operating system. z/VM disks can be part of a consistency > > > > group, > > > just > > > > as VSE, z/OS, Linux or TPF disks can. > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > > From: Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > > > > Date: 11/11/16 08:20 (GMT-07:00) > > > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > > > > > > > While z/VM can't use consistency groups -- z/OS and zLinux can with > CSM > > > > (Copy Services Manager) .... I'm currently involved in a project > > > where > > > > we have this running on a zLinux guest to be able to flash with > > > consistency > > > > groups. > > > > > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Alan Altmark > > > > <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, 11/10/2016 at 09:12 GMT, "Ponte, Douglas C. (JMD)" > > > > > <douglas.c.po...@usdoj.gov> wrote: > > > > > > Fullpack volume backups ---- can be run daily, weekly and > > > > > > monthly, > > > > using > > > > > JCL with automation tools > > > > > > (existing on z/OS already, e.g. BMC Control-M or Tivoli > > Automation). > > > > > This should be done with all > > > > > > z/VM and zLinux volumes. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the full volume backup cases, stopping/shutting down is not > > > > > > always > > > > > necessary, albeit it may be > > > > > > good practice to at least quiesce when it comes to DB?s and > > > > > > heavy use > > > > > servers. (e.g. DB2, Oracle, > > > > > > etc) > > > > > > > > > > WARNING: To do this reliably, you need software that is capable > > > > > of establishing an I/O consistency group. If you want to > > > > > FLASHCOPY the volumes and sequentially backup the volume copies, > > > > > that's ok, but do > > > NOT > > > > > just sequentially copy the live volumes of a running z/VM system. > > > > > (If > > > > you > > > > > wouldn't do it to a running z/OS system, don't do it to any > > > > > other > > > > system.) > > > > > This process is intimately tied to your DR strategy, too, so > > > > > get it right. > > > > > > > > > > If you have databases, use the backup software for the database. > > > > > If you're using hardware replication, be sure that it's > > > > > supported by the database vendor. > > > > > > > > > > Some people take a too-casual approach to backups and DR. I too > > > > > often hear "Don't worry, I'm doing it from z/OS." as though z/OS > > > > > has magical powers over z/VM and Linux. Don't fall into that > > > > > trap. 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