Dear Tom,
I too have run VSE/ESA. My sympathies.
Regards,
Flint
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Duerbusch, Tom wrote:
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:07:24 -0600
From: "Duerbusch, Tom" <duerbus...@stlouis-mo.gov>
Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU>
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LinuxOne and Oracle License
Not any more.
I use to run Oracle/VM 6 under VM/SP back in the old days.
It didn't run well, as we were limited to 16 MB real and virtual and we had
a couple VSE guests in the mix also.
But it was an upgrade from when we ran Oracle under VSE/SP.
Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Paul Flint <fl...@flint.com> wrote:
Greetings Mohd (et al),
I realize that this may be a genuinely stupid question, but is it possible
to run Oracle directly under IBM zVM like you can with DB2? I looked at
the Oracle matrix: (http://www.oracle.com/technet
work/database/virtualizationmatrix-172995.html), there it cites the only
way to operate the Oracle database is under Red Hat the way you are doing
it below.
Sorry to ask such a stupid question, but with...
Kindest Regards,
Paul Flint
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, Bfishing wrote:
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:38:04 -0500
From: Bfishing <bfish...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU>
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LinuxOne and Oracle License
Hopefully you did a study to see how many Oracle DB's will run on your 5
IFL's.
- Studies can also be used to help you properly size your DR environment,
in addition to the effects of breaking them up into different LPAR's. .
Chances are (but not 100% given) that 4 LPAR's each with 5 IFL's defined
to
them with only 5 real ones available to run on maybe over committing a bit
to much.
If your sharing engines (like you most likely should) consider placing
dev/test into a lower weighted LPAR and break them out like this:
LPAR1 = 3
LPAR2 = 3
That would allow you to set at least 1 Linux guest to use up to 3 CPU's
while helping to control your over commit.
Note: You should of course really map this out with IBM or your BP to
review goals.
- Having a means to measure your system and track its behavior as you grow
is also important.
- If you have a great performance product, chances are they come with a
team of folks that will help you on things like this as well.
- And if you ask me, it's better to have them engaged early over trying to
scramble to get them engaged as they can really help you set realistic
expectations.
BTW, here is a link for the Oracle z Systems special interest group (SIG)
web site.
http://zseriesoraclesig.org/
Lots of great material from past sessions is available from it.
I did talk to some of the team working on it recently and they do plan to
have this years info updated soon.
- They did confirm DC as reported from last years event.
Enjoy and good luck,
Kurt
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Johan Schelling <
johan.schell...@icu-it.nl>
wrote:
I believe that’s correct.
But keep in mind that also IFL’s on a DR system (active or CBU) can be
seen (by Oracle) as real cores Oracle can run on.
So if you have 5 active IFL’s and 5 CBU IFL’s on a DR machine this could
mean that you need licenses for 10 IFL’s…..
But as Kurt said, this depends entirely on the negotiations with Oracle.
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Op 13 feb. 2017, om 11:34 heeft Bfishing <bfish...@gmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:
My understanding, noting that everyone has to do there own negotiating
with
Oracle, is they charge for all real cores Oracle can run on. 5 IFL'S =
5
cores. Cores in reserve should not matter.
How you set up your lpar's really depends on goals.
The Oracle z Linux SIG is still being worked on for April in DC this
year
(so I heard). That is of course a really great place to talk to Oracle
and
peers about stuff like this.
Good luck,
Kurt
On Feb 13, 2017 5:02 AM, "Guest, Darren" <darren.gu...@uk.experian.com>
wrote:
Hi,
My understanding is that having 5 IFLs on each LPAR would mean you'd
have
to license all 10 IFLs on the box; the total of 20 logical IFLs would be
dispatched on all 10 physical IFLs.
I believe that if your total logical IFLs is 5 or less then you would
be
OK; only 5 physical IFLs worth could be running at any one time. Your
second example should also be OK for the same reason.
This is purely my own personal understanding and shouldn't be relied
upon
in any arguments with Oracle!
Cheers,
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
mohd rizal
Sent: 13 February 2017 3:22 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: LinuxOne and Oracle License
Hi All,
We just bought LinuxOne machine purposely to run the Oracle database.
This
machine come with 10 IFLs. 4 LPARs will be created and z/VM ver 6.4 and
SUSE Linux will run on top of it.
I have some issue regarding the Oracle license. Company only bought 5
oracle license for this year and will buy the remaining 5 license next
year.
In the HMC, can we give 5 IFL to all LPAR:-
LPAR1 = 5 IFL
LPAR2 = 5 IFL
LPAR3 = 5 IFL
LPAR4 = 5 IFL
or we should setup like this;-
LPAR1 = 2 IFL
LPAR2 = 1 IFL
LPAR3 = 1 IFL
LPAR4 = 1 IFL
I don't want to have any issue with the auditor team later on. Please
give
some advice...
Thanks in advance
-Mohd-
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