I think the implications extend beyond NSS though...   is SLES going to
divorce itself from embedded systems in general?   Are they all in on self
patching kernels and that's that?   Or can it simply be an option to
exploit when desirable?

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:57 AM Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 09/04/2019 at 08:16 GMT, Dave Jones <djo...@itconline.com>
> wrote:
> > ++1
> > You guys are going backwards....
>
> I haven't seen much traction with the NSS in the field.  Within an
> organization, Linux servers are maintained in a common way across
> platforms, with different servers on different schedules.  NSS messes with
> that concept, for good or ill, and trying to interfere with SOP just
> annoys people.
>
> But I look at it this way, NSSes and DCSSes were a means to an end:
> Conservation of memory.  It was especially important when memory was so
> expensive and sysprogs were a dime a dozen.  (Remember moving the DCSSes
> around for various product so they would all fit?)
>
> The economics have changed.  Setting up an NSS is still easy (once you
> know how!), but trying to persuade busy Linux admins to exploit it and
> change their patching strategies to match is time neither of us have to
> spare.
>
> I'd rather see de-duplication strategies that accomplish the same thing
> with minimal, if any, human involvement.
>
> Alan Altmark
>
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