As for supported instructions or features, might there be a difference between Spinhawk 3.xx and Hyperion 4.x? I know there are differences between the two, though I don't know if there is a difference in supported features.

I do have an issue with Hyperion 4 (and Spinhawk 3.10 and above) that apparently doesn't support some feature and I haven't found (yet) what feature I'm missing. But as a result I'm unable to run virtual machines in VM, but when running them as a native OS there is no problem.

Regards, Berry

Op 26-08-2024 om 22:29 schreef Paul Dembry:
I think Rick is trying this

OpenSUSE running on
      ^
      |
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Hercules running on
      ^
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Some os

IOW OpenSUSE S390x on top of Hercules, not Hercules on top of OpenSUSE. IIRC 
the more recent versions of OpenSUSE and RedHat (I think RH 8.x) require 
certain instructions that are not supported on Hercules. I goofed around with 
RH 8.x and think I got it to work using qemu s390 but cannot say for sure as it 
was a couple of years ago. I didn't really need anything higher than RH 7.x so 
it was just an exercise.
Regards,
Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> On Behalf Of Paul Flint
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 1:19 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Clarification: OpenSUSE on Hercules

Greetings Truth

To clarify, you are operating SUSE Tumbleweed as the base system on some random 
intel-type iron.  On top of this you want to operate Hercules, apparently this 
is part of your studied plan for world domination. (I am good with this :^)

This is where I get a bit confused.  I use Hercules to boot IBM VM 370.
This was enough of an entertainment that I folded Hercules and VM into a Docker container 
and stuck the whole beta out there as "BaBy Bear VM"
(http://bbbvm.org/),

So the question I have is do you need code to run on top of Hercules on top of 
Tumbleweed, or did I misunderstand?

If you are interested, this evening the Barre Open System Institute (BOSI)  has our 
regular meeting at the York Library in East Barre, we shall use meet.jit.si/bosi to 
connect. Come on to meet.Jit.si/bosi <http://meet.jit.si/bosi> at 6PM!

Feel free to click the following link (around 6PM tonight) to join the
meeting:
https://meet.jit.si/bosi

Regards,

Paul

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:06 PM Rick Troth <tro...@gmail.com> wrote:

I need OpenSUSE on Hercules and have so far been unable to install
either of these:


     openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DVD-s390x-Build710.3-Media
     openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-s390x-Snapshot20240819-Media


Months ago, I tried other releases/snap-shots. No joy then either.

I have tried supplying the kernel, INITRD, and parm file via 00C reader.
Didn't work. I have also tried Hercules IPL from ".ins" file.
After about 4 or 5 minutes, the run consistently ends with something
like ...


     T1! ------------ cut here !------------


   ... sometimes followed by (what appears to be) a wait state code,
sometimes not. In all cases the emulator stops with a disabled wait.

My preference is OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, but Leap works "if I gotta".
I'd like to install to un-partitioned FBA, but I've switched to CKD in
case FBA was/is causing the installer heartburn.
I've also tried to change the device addresses to match what the
samples have. Still nuttin, honey.

What am I doing wrong?





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