Linux-Advocacy Digest #437, Volume #25           Tue, 29 Feb 00 01:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Drestin Black")
  Re: My Windows 2000 experience ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Giving up on NT - Hmmm... ("Todd")
  Re: Giving up on NT ("Todd")
  Re: Giving up on NT ("Todd")
  Re: Microsoft's New Motto (was: TPC-C Results for W2k!! (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (Jim Richardson)
  Re: IE on UNIX (Cliff Wagner)
  Re: Windows 2000: flat sales (Matt Gaia)
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Microsoft's New Motto (was: TPC-C Results for W2k!! (Craig Kelley)
  Re: Windows 2000: flat sales ("Drestin Black")
  Re: I want control of my fu&king computer !!! (Craig Kelley)
  Re: Microsoft's New Motto (5X3)
  Re: Microsoft's New Motto (5X3)
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (5X3)
  Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (5X3)
  Re: How does the free-OS business model work? ("Mark Christensen")

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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:55:02 -0500


"5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:89evc9$q0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm sitting 1000 feet away from a machine running solaris that can kick
> the ass of anything that you're running NT on, guaranteed.

Guaranteed eh?

So, you bring your solaris box and I'll bring my NT box and we pick a
benchmark and winner takes all??

Care to run a TPC benchmark? Webspec99 benchmark? SAP? Hell, wanna run the
Oracle $1million challenge (I can provide the terrabytes of data from a
warehouse, can you?)

Better yet - why don't you materialize that magical ping attack and take my
W2K box down in 7 seconds flat? Remember that lie - the one that introduced
you to this world? We all do.

yea pook - remember, you just work there, it ain't your stuff ('cept for the
stuff you leech and pocket but we won't go into that)... unlike me; I own
it.



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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: My Windows 2000 experience
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:57:40 -0500


"petilon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anonymous Coward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I'm not the one trolling out a one-trick pony.
>
> What do you mean, "one-trick"? Did you not see my post about
> pcAnywhere crashing Windows 2000? FYI, there are 62998 other
> "tricks", although I haven't found them all yet.
>

yep - we did and once again you were/are nothing but repeating the same old
tired story. A setup question for a non-existant "bug"

Amazing how we all knew ...

Gee, maybe my copy of SideKick 1 will cause Windows 95 to crash if loaded
before mscdex.exe - oh oh, a bug!

Too bad everyone using pcA just clicks on "live update" and bingo - problem
fixed, free, by symantec (who was the source of the "bug" in any case)



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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT - Hmmm...
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:23:09 +0800


"Michael Wand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Tr�ger) writes:
>
> > Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Joseph, (why is it that only your messages don't get automatically
quoted?
> > > :)
> >
> > He uses
> >
> > X-Newsreader: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; OS/2)
> >
> > and you use
> >
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
> >
> > I've noticed this before, for some reason OE has problems with posts
> > made with StarOffice. And before somebody (again) puts the blame on SO,
> > no other newsreader seems to have these problems.
>
> MSOE does not quote messages that are encoded with quoted-printable.

Hi, just what is 'quoted-printable' anyway?

Thanks,

Todd


> This has been a well-known fault for a lot of time, but obviously
> nobody wants to fix it.
>
> This is indeed the fault of Microsoft.
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Looking for a good signature in English language.
> Applies to my e-mail address.


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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:24:34 +0800


"ZnU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <89co3h$e2l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Todd"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> HDTV is 1920x1080.

Wow... didn't know that.  It'll make Matrix look a whole lot better.

hehe.

-Todd

>
> --
> "I know how hard it is to put food on your family."
>       --George W. Bush in South Carolina
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>


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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:26:17 +0800


"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HDTV+Playstation3 will be the thing to beat for PC's and Macs. That
> combo will be sooooo fast and gorgeous.

By the time the PS3 + HDTV + network connects + everything else that makes a
PC a PC, you are going to be spending more money on that system than a PC!

And, you can still do other things with a PC as well...

-Todd

>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Todd Kepus writes:
> >
> > > How high can HDTV's go in terms of resolution?  PC gamers are now
pushing
> > > 1600x1280 with GeForce based cards... the new Voodoo's will go even
> > > higher...
> > >
> > > I find it hard to believe that HDTV's are going to have this kind of
> > > resolution *and* be as clear as computer monitors need to be.
> >
> > Why do you find it so hard to believe, Todd?  Perhaps you should read
> > up on HDTV.
>
> --
> You say it's cool to be yourself,
> but you want me to be like you
> and that is not being myself
> http://digitalheresy.tripod.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft's New Motto (was: TPC-C Results for W2k!!
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:16:29 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:15:37 -0600, 
 Chad Myers, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>
>"Joe Ragosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> > Except that the consumers didn't want anything other than x86,
>> > so they're needs are being met. The consumer has spoken, and they're
>> > getting what they want.
>>
>> Except that the consumers were never really offered a choice.
>>
>> Application software for NT/PPC and NT/MIPS was nearly nonexistent.
>> NT/Alpha wasn't much better.
>
>I'm still not clear how this is Microsoft's fault? Microsoft and
>3rd parties saw early on that Alpha wasn't demanded. Microsoft
>held in there and kept producing their latest server software
>for Alpha, perhaps in the hope that 3rd parties would jump in
>too. They never did, so Microsoft gave up too. No use dumping
>money when neither the consumers nor the 3rd party ISV's don't
>want it.
>


Could that be because the nature of NT-Alpha was a 32 bit OS
pretending to be a 64bit OS? Why would you waste a 64 bit system,
on what was a 32 bit OS?

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:50:32 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:26:18 -0500, 
 Drestin Black, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>
>"5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:89csh3$2e4s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Drive fast? Buddy - you don't know! Take your pick 157 was the best I
>did on
>> > my FZR-750 many years ago, but 191 is better in my Viper these days (I'm
>> > lazier now).
>>
>> Theres a guy named dan that swears you dont own a viper.
>
>theres a guy named kelly that swears you slept with him. (and he wants to
>know why you don't call anymore you bitch)
>
>but, I can do better: when you get your learners permit I can swing through
>the Windy City and let you take it for a spin.
>
>(I don't think I even know a dan who knows what I drive, I typically fly
>then rent-a-car...)

Hey, if *I* say I know a guy named <mumble> who says you don't
have a viper can I take it for a spin? just head west, stop
before you get wet, and look for the old Navy motor launch with
the don't tread  on me Ensign. Oh, knock first, the shotgun's
loaded.

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IE on UNIX
Date: 29 Feb 2000 04:29:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 28 Feb 2000 22:53:59 GMT, 5X3 typed something like:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:89ed99$vba$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>
>>> "5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>> news:89dvgr$4in$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>> > Neat.  I wonder why that USB camera I have constantly bluescreens W2K.
>>>
>>> I get the impression your electric shaver could bluescreen it.......
>
>
>> However, that same shaver works in 2.3.48 with the development drivers
>> and a kernel recompile. Oh yeah, make sure you have glibc 1.12.1.34.1.1.3
>> and edit your blah.conf file, and then recompile again. Then you have to
>> compile the driver and ... (and on and on...)
>
>I refuse to believe you EVER used linux.  
>
>Either you are actually intelligent and lied about your linux experience, 
>or you didnt lie and are incredibly stupid.
>
>Which one is it?

Exactly.
Everyone knows that that shaver is offered as a kernel module in 2.2.14.

-c-

-- 
Cliff Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Visit The Edge Zone:  http://www.edge-zone.net  

"Man will Occasionally stumble over the truth, but most
of the time he will pick himself up and continue on."
        -- Winston Churchill

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From: Matt Gaia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000: flat sales
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:35:12 -0500


: Thank you. You cleared that up just fine. Can you explain how it is you
: expect that machine to run better when it's suddenly hit with 4 times the
: memory load (new features). Tell ya what: Get yourself into the 90s (hell,
: the late 80s even) and fire up a P233 with 32 megs. OK, run W31 then W95 -
: suprise!

*Scratches his head* How can he get himself into the late 80's with a P233
when they didn't even come out for consumers till fourth quarter 96 at the
*very* earliest?  I dunno, but maybe it's my non-troll logic telling me
that a P233 wasn't even near production in the late 80's.  Damnit, I hate
it when I'm right. <g>


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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:41:00 -0500


"Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:26:18 -0500,
>  Drestin Black, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  brought forth the following words...:
>
> >
> >"5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:89csh3$2e4s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Drive fast? Buddy - you don't know! Take your pick 157 was the best I
> >did on
> >> > my FZR-750 many years ago, but 191 is better in my Viper these days
(I'm
> >> > lazier now).
> >>
> >> Theres a guy named dan that swears you dont own a viper.
> >
> >theres a guy named kelly that swears you slept with him. (and he wants to
> >know why you don't call anymore you bitch)
> >
> >but, I can do better: when you get your learners permit I can swing
through
> >the Windy City and let you take it for a spin.
> >
> >(I don't think I even know a dan who knows what I drive, I typically fly
> >then rent-a-car...)
>
> Hey, if *I* say I know a guy named <mumble> who says you don't
> have a viper can I take it for a spin? just head west, stop
> before you get wet, and look for the old Navy motor launch with
> the don't tread  on me Ensign. Oh, knock first, the shotgun's
> loaded.

Jim - you I respect (even if yer wrong now and again). If you wanna take it
for a drive... e-mail me privately, I'm on the west coast a week after I get
outta this motherfucking cast and you bet I wanna drive my own car again!



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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:38:14 -0500


"5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:89evgj$q0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:89csh3$2e4s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Drive fast? Buddy - you don't know! Take your pick 157 was the best I
> > did on
> >> > my FZR-750 many years ago, but 191 is better in my Viper these days
(I'm
> >> > lazier now).
> >>
> >> Theres a guy named dan that swears you dont own a viper.
>
> > theres a guy named kelly that swears you slept with him. (and he wants
to
> > know why you don't call anymore you bitch)
>
> Uncanny.  I had no idea you knew anyone in gleandalaoghaire, ireland.

So, you've slept with a guy named kelly from gleandalaoghaire, ireland?

>
> > but, I can do better: when you get your learners permit I can swing
through
> > the Windy City and let you take it for a spin.
>
> Neat.  I'll meet you there, but you're going to have to pay my train fare.

haha - yea, right - just drive your bike or ask your mom to drive you.
>
> > (I don't think I even know a dan who knows what I drive, I typically fly
> > then rent-a-car...)
>
> Ohhh yes you do.  What sucks is that he doesnt have any pictures.

haha - that's funny. Too bad he doesn't have pictures of a non-existant
item? I can see it: Here is my proof that Drestin doesn't own a viper. Ta
da: a picture of drestin without a viper! You are hilarious. Well, ask "dan"
what car this plate belongs to: MBN 931. Oh, and I DO have pictures (just
append the make of the car that plate belongs to to what the "expected URL"
for someone with the e-mail addy I use posting here.)

(p.s., ever watch someone with MUCH less bandwidth than you try to slam your
site? it's funny isn't it... the feds think so too, especially in light of
recent DoS crap...)



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft's New Motto (was: TPC-C Results for W2k!!
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 21:52:54 -0700

"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Bill Vermillion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >There isn't a single shipping 64 bit processor that MS has any
> > >plans to put W2K on.
> >
> > And the sad part is that there are 64bit processors out there that
> > MS did support - but no longer.
> >
> > Remember when MS promoted NT as being cross-platform.  Four
> > supported processor families.  Down to one now.
> 
> The design still supports it. However, in case you haven't noticed,
> companies have to make money. MS was not making money on any of the
> other platforms, so they dumped support.

And the sheer *weight* of supporting Alpha is just killing Linux right 
now.

<snicker>

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000: flat sales
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:42:55 -0500


"Matt Gaia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> : Thank you. You cleared that up just fine. Can you explain how it is you
> : expect that machine to run better when it's suddenly hit with 4 times
the
> : memory load (new features). Tell ya what: Get yourself into the 90s
(hell,
> : the late 80s even) and fire up a P233 with 32 megs. OK, run W31 then
W95 -
> : suprise!
>
> *Scratches his head* How can he get himself into the late 80's with a P233
> when they didn't even come out for consumers till fourth quarter 96 at the
> *very* earliest?  I dunno, but maybe it's my non-troll logic telling me
> that a P233 wasn't even near production in the late 80's.  Damnit, I hate
> it when I'm right. <g>
>

hehehe. yea, had to reread that AFTER (damnit) I hit send. :) oops Yer spot
on with the 4th quarter though, I remember playing Total Annihilation
(*cough* to test graphic card/directx compatibility, of course *cough*) and
having the upper hand over 166 mhz players.. :)




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Subject: Re: I want control of my fu&king computer !!!
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 22:04:12 -0700

Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Tim Kelley wrote:
> 
> > In X11 the end user can set a focus policy that overrides
> > whatever annoying crap the developers (well corporations, free
> > software developers never do that sort of crap) decided to do,
> > which is the way it should be.
> 
> You should try running IE on Solaris sometime.  If it'll even run
> (the lastest versions either lock after a few minutes, or lock my
> entire window session) it still overrides your settings and will
> jump up/down on it's own.

Not entirely surprising, after reading the comments of the UNIX
porters for IE.  They didn't show much understanding of anything.

I would try to dredge up the URL, but I don't feel like surfing
microsoft.com right now...

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5X3)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft's New Motto
Date: 29 Feb 2000 05:10:02 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad - thanks man, you saved me the time of finding the easy to find URLs
> that easily prove that once again Pook, Mr. uneven 4x4 is so completely out
> of his league and uninformed that he continues to embaress himself. I mean,
> it's like: Hi, I work at an ISP so I must be an super computer geek.
> hehehe...

Well color me incorrect.  I was obviously wrong about microsoft not being
given silicon samples some months ago, as was pointed out by a poster who 
is neither dresden nor chad.

My apologies.




p0ok


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5X3)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft's New Motto
Date: 29 Feb 2000 05:15:43 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:89eujs$q0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> > And you are CERTAIN of the ship dates for Intel and AMDs 64-bit chips ??
>>
>> > You mean like when Intel released the 733 Piiis 6 months ahead of
> schedule?
>>
>> Intel has been running a losing race with AMD for quite some time.  The
> release
>> date of the Intel chip will be directly dependant on the release date of
> AMDs.

> You fool - don't you realize what you yourself admit. The REASON Intel CAN
> make their release dates dependent on release dates of AMDs is because the
> chips are done and ready they just wait for AMD to come out with something
> and then they just trump them. Don't you read? Haven't you noticed this
> happening over and over and over and over. Show me once when AMD has had the
> faster processor out for more than a month. 

Actually, having been shopping for a new motherboard and processor for
my home machine, ive noticed that athlons have had an average of 50mhz
on pentium IIIs for quite a while.

www.pricewatch.com

As of right now, the latest *consumer available* athlon processor is 850mhz.
AFAIK, the fastest PIII is 800mhz, and is on average, about 200 dollars more.

> Oh, and did we mention actually
> available for purchase as opposed to back ordered? You go and try to get one
> of those latest AMDs - and keep waiting and waiting and waiting...

Both Accubyte and Paragon Technology, Inc. had athlon 850s available for 
shipment at 4pm, EST today.




p0ok


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5X3)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: 29 Feb 2000 05:19:52 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:89evc9$q0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I'm sitting 1000 feet away from a machine running solaris that can kick
>> the ass of anything that you're running NT on, guaranteed.

> Guaranteed eh?

> So, you bring your solaris box and I'll bring my NT box and we pick a
> benchmark and winner takes all??

Its not mine, and I'd need a semi to haul it.

> Care to run a TPC benchmark? Webspec99 benchmark? SAP? Hell, wanna run the
> Oracle $1million challenge (I can provide the terrabytes of data from a
> warehouse, can you?)

Nope.  Whitepaper is quite clear enough.

> Better yet - why don't you materialize that magical ping attack and take my
> W2K box down in 7 seconds flat? Remember that lie - the one that introduced
> you to this world? We all do.

Why dont you come up with your little 'c' webserver?

> yea pook - remember, you just work there, it ain't your stuff ('cept for the
> stuff you leech and pocket but we won't go into that)... 

Wise, but becoming very, very stupid.

> unlike me; I own
> it.

Uh huh.  Just like that viper.




p0ok


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5X3)
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: 29 Feb 2000 05:21:52 GMT

Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (p.s., ever watch someone with MUCH less bandwidth than you try to slam your
> site? it's funny isn't it... the feds think so too, especially in light of
> recent DoS crap...)

What exactly are you insinuating here?

You're going to have to be very, very specific so that I can make sure
I have a perfect record of exactly what youre saying.




p0ok


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From: "Mark Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: How does the free-OS business model work?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:27:29 GMT

You seem to have missed my main point, and therefore you have avoided the
one question which might bring some sanity to this discussion.

What exactly is it about the basic tenants of capitalism which requires
anyone who accepts the basic tenants of capitalism to be either in favor of
intellectual property law, or inconsistent?  You keep repeating this, and I
know you believe it to be true and obvious, but it's really not obvious to
me. And I'd  like to get a better grip on exactly where you stand, so it'd
be very helpful if you could just point me in the right direction.

--
Mark Christensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

People understand me so little that they do not even understand me when I
complain of being misunderstood.
--Kierkegaard




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    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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