Linux-Advocacy Digest #188, Volume #26 Thu, 20 Apr 00 06:14:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (Christopher Browne)
Re: LILO saves the day (Daniel O'Nolan)
Re: distro (Jim Richardson)
Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible (Jim Richardson)
REQ: Please Help Newbie ("Beverly")
Re: Another crosses the floor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mandrake is listening! It's "Da Bomb"! (Mark S. Bilk)
Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000 ("Rich C")
Re: uptime -> /dev/null (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: MICROSOFT IS FINISHED!!! (Jim Richardson)
Re: Please Help Newbie ("Rich C")
Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! ("Tim Mayer")
Re: Windows2000 sale success.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Standard desktop... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software? ("Christopher Smith")
Re: Another crosses the floor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Please Help Newbie ("Beverly")
Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
Re: simply being open source is no guarantee of security. (Perry Pip)
Re: LILO saves the day ("Clockmeister")
Re: uptime -> /dev/null (Jim Richardson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:07:29 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when John Hasler would say:
>Vlad writes:
>> Lets assume that both men do their job perfectly well, however one is
>> rewaded 30 times more than the other one for doing his job well. I
>> believe this is fundamnetally unfailr.
>
>It is also fundamentally very unlikely in a free market.
Oh, it happens _quite_ often, when those jobs are valued in
substantially different ways.
>> You are not forced to work for any particular employer (unless he
>> is the only one in town as it often happens),...
>
>That rarely happens here. And when it does, what keeps you in town?
If you're doing IT work in Tulsa, Oklahoma, there is highly likely to
be _one_ enterprise that you're working for. And if life is more than
work, and you wind up with house, family, friends, and community
involvements, changing towns may be a significant inconvenience.
>> as being self-employed isnt really an option for most
>
>Here it is.
Depending on which industry you're skilled in.
>> So basically you are free to choose your master.
>
>Employers aren't masters: they're customers who buy your time. In a
>free market everyone is really self-employed.
I don't think I can go along with this one. In "more authoritative"
organizations, they look like masters, smell like masters, and quack
like masters.
>> On the countrary people living in such commnities dont lock their
>> doors and are not afraid to work alone at night.
>
>I don't lock my doors and I am not afraid to work alone at night.
The degree of concern is highly geographically dependent. Some
communities have severe problems with crime; others don't. The US
used to have a burgeoning problem which appears to have headed into
decline over the last few years.
>> Its called unmeployment. Which is quite natural for capitalism,...
>
>Thw woman I mentioned in my previous post? The who was talked into not
>quitting the grocery store? If she had quit, she would have been one of
>the unemployed during the weeks it would have taken her to find a new job.
>I know another young woman who recently quit a job with a small
>manufacturing company because she didn't like the management. She is
>currently unemployed (or was last week). She doesn't seem to be in danger
>of losing her home, though.
Having _some_ unemployment is just as necessary in order for an
economy ("capitalist" or otherwise) to function well as things like
"available housing."
Communities where real estate vacancy rates head down to less than 1%
wind up having substantial problems since it becomes very difficult
for people to move around. It is reasonably likely that it leads to
discrimination, since it turns things into a "seller's" market, and so
landlords have additional opportunity to be choosy. Even if explicit
discrimination is illegal, they may do more passive things, such as:
- Advertising in places where they expect not to find many readers of
the colours they don't like;
- Being unhelpful to candidates of the wrong culture;
- Accidentally hanging up the phone when people with the "wrong
accent" call.
- Having additional "official" requirements that would discourage
_all_ comers, but only applying them to those in the "wrong
culture."
In a market where there _are_ significant vacancies, landlords are
"competing" for residents, which diminishes the above tendancies.
--
Rule of Scarcity
"If it's not allocated by a market, then it's more expensive than
money."
-- Mark Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Daniel O'Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO saves the day
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:36:15 -0500
2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Craig Kelley wrote:
>=20
> > It was obvious that the MBR was hosed -- it was an IDE drive, so no
> > low-level format was available, so I booted up with a Linux floppy an=
d
> > installed LILO on the MBR with one partition "DOS" to hda1. After
> > reseting the machine, everything worked.
>=20
> Don't most BIOSs provide an IDE low level format utility. Mine does (it=
s
> dog slow), but it rescued a disk that got trashed my win95.
>=20
> -Ed
> --
> Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous Hackenthorpe rock=
,
> which
> is over three trillion years old?
> -The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies
I have a AWARD BIOS on a DFI Super 7 motherboard that doesn't, and the BI=
OS is
like 1 1/2 years old.
-Dan O'Nolan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: distro
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:26:52 GMT
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:23:32 GMT,
JOE, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>URL??
>thanks in advance
>JOE
>
>Jim Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:35:18 +0100,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> brought forth the following words...:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >JOE wrote:
>> >
>> >> What distribution of Linux will work on a 12 year old 386 sx 20 laptop
>> >> with a 3.5 floppy and a 60M harddrive?
>> >>
>> >> JOE
>> >
>> >Monkey Linux is the smallest distro that you will find.
>> >
>> >It fits on 5 floppies (including X and fvwm). Therer are additional
>> >packages avaliable, such as sendmail and apache and gcc. It's distributed
>> >by some bloke (sorry, I forgot the URL)
>> ><goes to a browser and searches...>
>> ><aaah, found it!>
>> >
>> >http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/monkey/
>> >
>> >The main server seems to be a bit slow, and I didn't have much luck with
>> >the mirrors, so you'll have to sit it out.
>> >
>> >Good luck.
>> >Tell me how it goes - I haven't got round to putting it on my 386 yet.
>> >
>>
>> Tom's RootBoot is 1 floppy (no X or gui, but a _host_ of utilities, awk
>> grep, etc. Editors, scsi drivers, ethernet drivers. It's the best (imho)
>> 1 disk distro.
>>
www.toms.net/rb
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:33:57 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:44:51 -0500,
Erik Funkenbusch, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Try running News offline...
>>
>> I am at this very moment. As a matter of fact, I have my own news server
>> running on my notebook...
>
>Isn't that a bit overkill? And it usually requires you to get a peering
>relationship with your ISP. Is that something you expect an average person
>to be able to do?
>
The overhead is minimal, leafnode for example only grabs the newsgroups you
read. No worse than any other off line newsreader system. As for a peering
relationship? why? do all the windows based off-line news readers need a
peering relationship? All you are doing in either case
is nntp based.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: "Beverly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: REQ: Please Help Newbie
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:53:18 -0000
I just installed linux and have tried to set my kppp to dial my ISP. I can't
get the modem to dial, It finds the modem, I get moden initalising, and
thats as far as I go. I am not useing a win modem. as a matter of fact have
tried two modems both V34 type. I had linux installed once before and was
able to connect. don't know what I could have done wrong this time. Any help
appreciated.
Bev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another crosses the floor
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:52:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David S. Hamilton) wrote:
>
> I made the switch to Linux from windoze about four months ago. I'm a
> tradesman and work with my hands and a hard hat on all day. But at
> night, I come home and sit at the monitor and delight in the
> fascinating features in Mandrake 7.0.
Found your post extremely interesting, since my background is in the
trades and crafts as well. I've found it's difficult to describe or
explain to someone who's been in software "engineering" all their life
what constitutes good workmanship, but that's what's drawn me to Linux.
I get the same feeling looking at the parts and pieces that make up a
Linux distro that I get looking at stiles and rails on a good cabinet
that fit together so tight you can't see the seams. Something that's so
perfect it could only be handcrafted, and obviously assembled by an
individual who loves what he does for a living. That kind of dedication
always shows in any craft, and Linux is a wonderful example of software
craftsmanship at its finest. Software engineering is certainly much
more an art than a science, and you can see proof of that in Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Subject: Re: Mandrake is listening! It's "Da Bomb"!
Date: 19 Apr 2000 03:17:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Cat) wrote
>>...
>>Did you try running Lothar? The SB-16 is one of the better supported
>>sound cards under Linux.
>
>I've never heard of Lothar but I'll take a look it later.
Lothar is Mandrake the Magician's sidekick in the
comic strip. 8^)
--
Mandrake gestures hypnotically...
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From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.basic,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:44:27 -0400
"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Bloody Viking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:Lr9K4.6454$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > In alt.destroy.microsoft Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>
> > : Because they are going to come and forcibly take away your current
> > : version?
>
> > They will have to in fact use violence. I bought my copy of QBASIC,
after
> > all. Tough shit if I route my code into a QB >> C converter and compile
> > away on UNIX. Fuck the monopoly. Bill Gates can suck my dick. And I
won't
> > allow it to do so.
>
> Then in what way are they forcing you to upgrade, which * was * your
> original contention, after all...
Well, I wasn't the one who said this, but I think B. Viking is lamenting the
fact that QBASIC.EXE doesn't run reliably under ANY modern version of
windows, which is testament to the fact that they don't provide true DOS
environments.
-- Rich C.
"Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: uptime -> /dev/null
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 03:55:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Jim Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:29:26 -0400
<WBtJ4.6098$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>Pedro Ballester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:WWrJ4.1628$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > When windows starts to go flakey (after a few month if you
>> > install/uninstall stuff frequently), uptime can be less than
>> > the amount of time that you use a computer for in one go.
>>
>> Agree.
>>
>> > Also, a bad app can crash windows, making you loose all
>> > your data.
>>
>> Well, ext2 partitions have given me a lot of trouble too. Linux
>> lacks a good journaling filesystem now.
>>
>> > Except that a desktop user need not apply each case.
>>
>> Agree, but almost each case; anyway, tell me any Linvocate (me
>> included) that does not install avery patch falling in its hands :)
>
>I lost alot of data with an EXT2 partition.
>I won't trust Linux with journalling also.
>
>FAT16 never does wrong by me strangly enough.
There is something to be said for file system stupidity. :-)
FAT16 is probably about the most brain-dead file system there is.
However, that means that it's also the most stable and predictable.
Of course, that's of little help if an app (or the OS!) crosses file
block chains, or loops them, or does other weird things. :-)
FAT16 also doesn't have great performance characteristics -- an issue
if one wants to set up something like a Postgres database or a
newsspool. And FAT16 doesn't support user or group ownership
without additional hacks.
So perhaps it never does wrong, but there is a performance and
useability penalty. (To be fair, ext2 has the nasty habit of
verifying itself after a crash -- an issue if one has to wait
30 minutes to verify 20 gigs worth of disk; I am hopeful ext3
will eventually fix that. Also, no unencrypted volume is secure
if one has physical access to it anyway -- a file owned by root,
if the hacker knows where it is, can be read by a disk reading
program; this is the reason why /dev/[hd][a-h]* are only
accessible by the superuser.)
>
>Jim
>
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- there's a reason FAT is called FAT. It has
very FAT clusters. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IS FINISHED!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:09:37 GMT
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 02:59:45 -0500,
Erik Funkenbusch, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8deeb7$tdp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <HwoK4.1901$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Dirk Gently" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > With open sorce, you CAN hide a consperacy. It just means you have
>> too have
>> > a lot more people in on it, and is therefore less likely to suceed.
>>
>> That would be the lousiest conspiracy _ever_; everyone who wants to know
>> about it can just read some lines of code - way to hide somthing, dude!
>
>It's quite easy to "hide in plain sight". For instance, self-modifying code
>could be implanted into the system which would be very difficult for someone
>to notice in a casual perusal.
>
>
>
>
man diff
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help Newbie
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:22:18 -0400
"Beverly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Gc9L4.284$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just installed linux and have tried to set my kppp to dial my ISP. I
can't
> get the modem to dial, It finds the modem, I get moden initalising, and
> thats as far as I go. I am not useing a win modem. as a matter of fact
have
> tried two modems both V34 type. I had linux installed once before and was
> able to connect. don't know what I could have done wrong this time. Any
help
> appreciated.
> Bev.
>
>
This is not really the place for this kind of question; you should really
post your problem in alt.os.linux.dial-up, comp.os.linux.setup,
comp.os.linux.answers, and comp.os.linux.hardware.
But first, look at your message log and see if you can see exactly what is
happening. In a terminal window, su to root and do a
tail /var/log/messages
command after you connect. If you aren't root, you may not be able to read
this file. Also, if you have a distribution other than Red Hat, this file
may be under another name or in a different directory.
If you are using KPPP, click the log button on the dialog when you connect.
It will show the modem communications, and will tell you at the very least
if you're connecting. Just hearing the modem's chirping isn't always enough.
Did you use the same distribution before and it worked? Or is this a
different one?
Ask your ISP if they are using PAP or CHAP. Chances are they are using one
of the two, and it may be that you are executing some kind of logon script,
which may not be compatible with the PAP or CHAP authorization scheme. Try
disabling any logon script (I forget exactly how to do this in KPPP, IIRC,
there is a scripting tab in the setup dialog.
If you can't solve it on your own, post the contents of your messages file
for the pppd connect portion ONLY (we don't need to see huge files of the
last six times you booted up! :o)
Good Luck!
-- Rich C.
"Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people."
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From: "Tim Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:19:17 GMT
"Jeff Glatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Unless I have missed something in the Win32 API, I don't think there's a
way
> >for a given app to have its own "registry" like this, where they can use
the
> >same registry API calls on their own file like I can with my own INI
files in
> >OS/2. Do you (or anyone else) know if this is possible in Win32? Just a
> >curiosity on my part.
>
> Yes, use functions such as WritePrivateProfileSection(),
> WritePrivateProfileString(), WritePrivateProfileStruct(),
> GetPrivateProfileSection(), GetPrivateProfileString().
>
> But of course, the problem with using your own INI files is that
> Commercial Backup programs don't know about them, and so can't really
> provide a person with the ability to do backups of important settings
> unless the user knows the names/locations of those private INI files.
However, they are only for compatibility with 16 bit windows - not that this
makes them any less useful if you want to create an INI.
Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows2000 sale success..
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:18:47 GMT
In article <mh8L4.59287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "J@M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Indeed, on Tuesday, Microsoft said it had sold 1.5 million copies
of
> Windows
> > 2000 in the two months since its launch, a pace four times that of
its
> > predecessor, Windows NT 4.0."
>
> Any data on how many servers out of the 1.5 million copies?
>
> >
> > 0.5 million copies for the second month compared to 1 million in the
first
> > month...
>
> And the projected sale for this month is.......
>
> Otto
At the current rate of decline in sales,
250 thousand....
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Standard desktop...
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:31:26 GMT
For the first time since I started using Linux, I getting to use a Sun
workstation in addition to my Linux workstation. I don't mind Solaris
but, I hate CDE. Well, I installed KDE on the Sun and (Drum roll,
please) ta'da, I have MY standard desktop across the two different
platforms. The home directories are the same (mounted NFS) so all the
desktop configurations follow me. I know many people do not like KDE or
GUI's but, I think this shows how the Open-Source model can be a
powerful, unifying force in the computer industry.
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software?
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:57:20 +1000
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > /me
wonders....
> > > Rob (happily using *backdoor free* software).
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Have you personally auditted every single line of code running on your
> > computer to ascertain this ?
>
> Common sense says that each and every individual does not have to
> verify every line of code.
Common sense also questions why everyone should trust this tiny minority of
people that are actually "reviewing" the source code.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another crosses the floor
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:42:06 GMT
Welcome David,
Now that you've gotten over the hardest part of learning Linux, keep
using it for about a year and go back to MS windows for a week. I think
you'll find how much better Linux REALLY is! After a year and a half of
Linux on my desk, using any MS OS is pure agony!
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From: "Beverly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help Newbie
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:55:24 -0000
Thanks for answering my plea for help even tho posted to wrong group. there
is nothing in the log sence the modem never dials, it only says that its
initalising. Yes useing the versame linux mandrake 6.0 and same computer, so
its really weird.
"Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:38fd3431@news...
> "Beverly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:Gc9L4.284$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I just installed linux and have tried to set my kppp to dial my ISP. I
> can't
> > get the modem to dial, It finds the modem, I get moden initalising, and
> > thats as far as I go. I am not useing a win modem. as a matter of fact
> have
> > tried two modems both V34 type. I had linux installed once before and
was
> > able to connect. don't know what I could have done wrong this time. Any
> help
> > appreciated.
> > Bev.
> >
> >
> This is not really the place for this kind of question; you should really
> post your problem in alt.os.linux.dial-up, comp.os.linux.setup,
> comp.os.linux.answers, and comp.os.linux.hardware.
>
> But first, look at your message log and see if you can see exactly what is
> happening. In a terminal window, su to root and do a
>
> tail /var/log/messages
>
> command after you connect. If you aren't root, you may not be able to read
> this file. Also, if you have a distribution other than Red Hat, this file
> may be under another name or in a different directory.
>
> If you are using KPPP, click the log button on the dialog when you
connect.
> It will show the modem communications, and will tell you at the very least
> if you're connecting. Just hearing the modem's chirping isn't always
enough.
>
> Did you use the same distribution before and it worked? Or is this a
> different one?
>
> Ask your ISP if they are using PAP or CHAP. Chances are they are using one
> of the two, and it may be that you are executing some kind of logon
script,
> which may not be compatible with the PAP or CHAP authorization scheme. Try
> disabling any logon script (I forget exactly how to do this in KPPP, IIRC,
> there is a scripting tab in the setup dialog.
>
> If you can't solve it on your own, post the contents of your messages file
> for the pppd connect portion ONLY (we don't need to see huge files of the
> last six times you booted up! :o)
>
> Good Luck!
>
> -- Rich C.
> "Great minds discuss ideas.
> Average minds discuss events.
> Small minds discuss people."
>
>
>
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 03:41:33 GMT
Christopher Browne writes:
> Oh, it happens _quite_ often, when those jobs are valued in substantially
> different ways.
Then they are not equivalent jobs and so are not in the same markets.
> If you're doing IT work in Tulsa, Oklahoma, there is highly likely to be
> _one_ enterprise that you're working for. And if life is more than work,
> and you wind up with house, family, friends, and community involvements,
> changing towns may be a significant inconvenience.
So you choose to stay there. Fine. I choose to stay here, though I could
probably increase my after taxes income tenfold (no, I'm not kidding) by
moving to the city.
> Depending on which industry you're skilled in.
Self-employment is an option for most in the US. Probably not an optimal
option, but an option nonetheless.
> I don't think I can go along with this one. In "more authoritative"
> organizations, they look like masters, smell like masters, and quack like
> masters.
I've been a draftee in the US Army: I know what masters look, smell, and
quack like. Private company managers don't even come close.
> The degree of concern is highly geographically dependent.
I'm aware of that: I used to live in downtown Minneapolis. I was
responding to the implication that only in communes are people unafraid to
leave doors unlocked.
> Having _some_ unemployment is just as necessary in order for an economy
> ("capitalist" or otherwise) to function well...
I'd say that some unemployment is a consequence of an economy functioning
well. The more of a seller's market the job market becomes, the more
likely people are to quit their present job to look for another, take some
time off to train their horse for a try at the Tevis cup, or make a stab at
starting a business.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: simply being open source is no guarantee of security.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:13:14 GMT
For once I agree with you, Drestin. Simply being open source is not
a guarantee of security. I would like to add to that and say that being
closed source means there can *never* be a guarantee of security becuase
you can *never* see the code.
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:15:02 -0400, Drestin Black
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: http://www.securityfocus.com/commentary/19
[snipped]
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From: "Clockmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO saves the day
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:40:05 +0800
2:1 wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Craig Kelley wrote:
>
>> It was obvious that the MBR was hosed -- it was an IDE drive, so no
>> low-level format was available, so I booted up with a Linux floppy and
>> installed LILO on the MBR with one partition "DOS" to hda1. After
>> reseting the machine, everything worked.
>
>Don't most BIOSs provide an IDE low level format utility. Mine does (its
>dog slow), but it rescued a disk that got trashed my win95.
None do. The low level formatting utilities found in any PC BIOS is for MFM
drives and are provided for backward compatability only.
Modern IDE drives cannot be formatted without the use of the special
diagnostic connector/equipment or software specifically written to perform
such a task (and are drive specific).
Some older IDE drives (such as some Conner drives) can be formatted using
the BIOS routines because those drives didn't have any such protection. In
most cases though, if an IDE drive requires a low level format to bring it
back to life, the drive is unreliable anyway.
In any case, Win95 couldn't possibly trash a drive to the point where it
required a LLF, unless the drive itself had a problem to begin with.
Regards,
Clockmeister.
>
>-Ed
>--
>Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous Hackenthorpe rock,
>which
>is over three trillion years old?
> -The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: uptime -> /dev/null
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:34:11 GMT
On 17 Apr 2000 10:41:21 GMT,
Donal K. Fellows, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've worked on marine diesels where the only time you shut it down, was to
>> work on something that was moving :) Filters, oil, coolant, etc, all could
>> be changed underway. Pistons you had to shut the engine down for. :)
>
>I think it is only really surgeons that work on moving parts while
>they're still going. The rest of us know our limitations... :^)
>
Or we get to meet said surgeons in their professional capacity :)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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