Linux-Advocacy Digest #273, Volume #26 Wed, 26 Apr 00 14:13:43 EDT
Contents:
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Craig Kelley)
Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability (Craig Kelley)
Re: IBM dumping more shares of RedHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (Craig
Kelley)
Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (Craig
Kelley)
Re: Disabled lady needs Linux Corel (Bill Unruh)
Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (Craig
Kelley)
Re: RedHat 6.2 not recognizing 384MB RAM (Bob Hauck)
Time for the MS-rats to desert (John Unekis)
Re: Factory pre-installed Linux. (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Factory pre-installed Linux. (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Government to break up Microsoft (JEDIDIAH)
Re: KDE is better than Gnome (JEDIDIAH)
Linux v. BeOS (Ben)
Re: Adobe FrameMaker available on Linux (Wolfgang Weisselberg)
Re: which OS is best? (Subpop)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Apr 2000 10:58:22 -0600
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> > Except that everyone's retirement accounts keep pouring into the
> > system every month.
>
> And what happens when ... the baby boomers retire, and start taking
> money out?
[snip]
> When enough baby-boomers stop blindly dumping money into the market
> (like, when they retire), the dividends will look insanely small,
> there will be a rush on bonds, and the stock market will collapse.
Yep. Scary stuff. I do put a portion of my retirement into the stock
market, but the majority of it is elsewhere. If it does crash around
the baby boomer's heads, it's going to devalue the dollar so that
everything is worthless anyway.
> Have fun. I'll be overseas.
The NYSE can collapse the world economy as well, you know...
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:02:39 -0600
"Eddie Dubourg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >|
> > >|Not -any- idiot. IIRC, Jim Seymour wrote some years
> > >|back about walking into a number of Unix shops that
> > >|left the root password set to the installation default.
> > >|
> > >|Anyone could login as root (it might not have been Jim
> > >|Seymour who wrote this; it was some time ago)
> > >|
> > > Actually, aren't most distributions of Linux set to put the default
> > >password of root to nothing? In other words, what's the difference? If
> you
> > >are too foolish to change the password, you get what you sow.
> >
> > I can't speak for any other distros (nor can I speak *for* RedHat),
> > but RedHat requires the installer to type in some sort of a root password.
> > At least as of 6.0 (maybe 5.0!), and I doubt they've changed it in 6.2.
> >
> > I don't know if it will accept carriage return (an empty password)
> > or not.
> >
> > Of course, this is the main system password; I'm not sure what the
> > piranha password issue is, not having 6.2 installed.
>
> I've used RedHat since v4.0, they all required you to type in a root
> password (non zero length, but other than than anything goes), but RedHat as
> of 6.1 still allowed you at the Lilo prompt to type "linux 1" and enter
> single user mode as root - my prime reason to switch to Debian, which if you
> try this insists on the root password (which makes it hard to restore a
> system if you've forgotten the root password, but I'd rather have this
> possibility than finding my system deleted.....)
That's the only reason you switched to Debian? For a false sense of
security that any floppy can destroy? Don't misunderstand me, I like
Debian quite a bit -- but I wouldn't change over to it just becase it
requires the root password for single-user mode.
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Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM dumping more shares of RedHat
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:03:24 GMT
Buzzz, wrong again Chad. IBM is stepping up it's commitment to Linux.
IBM may be dropping it's Redhat stock because they are supporting 3
different distributions -- Caldera, Turbo Linux and Redhat.
http://www.it-director.com/00-04-26-1.html
Linux survers for 25% less than servers with MS software! The MS fad is
over time to pull out!
In article <ISBN4.438$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/newsbursts/0,7407,2487559,00.html
>
> "IBM Corp. (NYSE: IBM), the No. 1 computer maker in the world, filed
with
> regulators to sell about $14.37 million worth of shares in Red Hat
Inc.
> (Nasdaq: RHAT), a Linux software operating system distributor. IBM
filed on
> March 23 to sell 250,000 shares it acquired through a private purchase
from the
> company about 13 months ago, according to a filing with the Securities
and
> Exchange Commission made available on Wednesday. A spokesman for
Armonk,
> N.Y.-based IBM was not immediately available for comment. IBM sold
another
> 150,000 shares earlier this month worth an estimated $8.5 million, the
filing
> showed."
>
> Well, it was fun while it lasted. The fad's over, time to pull out.
>
> -Chad
>
>
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Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:09:56 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter) writes:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:44:04 GMT, s_Ea_DAag0n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:30:38 +0000, Colin R. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>sea_Dragon wrote:
> >>
> >><snip>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I have been compiling and installing new Linux kernels for 6.5 years and
> >>> know what I am doing. I gave the correct root drive. I added the new
> >>> kernel to MILO, and kept the old one, and neither would boot with the
> >>
> >>Isn't that LILO? Could explain the problem.
> >>
> >><snip>
> >
> >Oh dear. You must be ---***___EXTREMELEY___***-- new to Linux.
> >
> >IMHO, anyone posting on comp.os.linux.advocacy who doesn't what MILO is
> >needs to be beaten with a cluestick. Badly.
>
> No, it's you who needs a clue. I have no idea what MILO is, other
> than a popular chockolate drink.
Put a sock in it.
MILO is a boot loader for Linux/Alpha, and has been used by other
archtiectures as well.
[snip more ignorance]
If you don't understand a term, perhaps you shouldn't rant on about
it, hmmm?
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Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:19:12 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (s_Ea_DAag0n) writes:
> >Hmm, so you're a kernel developer eh? Why not devleop asynch I/O for it
> >yourself then?
>
> Because the kernel architecture of Linux is too broken to support it, and it
> would have to be kludged in. It would be messy, at best.
According to Alan Cox:
"All network I/O is asynchronously buffered. There is no need for
asynchronous I/O in kernel space. glibc 2.1 provides the full POSIX
real time asynchronous I/O API entirely in user space built on
clone(). Thats another chunk of code we don't have to put in the OS
kernel for no actual performance change."
This issue actually boils down to a usability question: How much
faster would the kernel be at I/O if it had asynchornous waits? Linux
typically solves these problems by making a lock as short as
possible.
Will Linux ever scale to 64+ processors?
Perhaps not under the current design. If/when 64-processor machines
are common, you may see some changes in Linux or a migration to a
different kernel.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.corel,alt.linux,alt.fan.linux,sbay.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.best
Subject: Re: Disabled lady needs Linux Corel
Date: 26 Apr 2000 17:24:45 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "ROSAPHILIA -->> cuz NYC Could BE BETTER!!"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>i am disabled and poor on a fixed income.
>if you have a spare, unopened copy of the full linux corel with word
>processor and browser in it on diskette, not cd, could you please snail
>me it?
Just order a copy from a place like cheapbytes.com -- $2 +$5 shipping
and handling for the free version of the various linuxes.
>i am sick of windowz and it killed my pc-266 and i cannot even recognize
>my cd reader anymore either.
Do not know what a pc-266 is. It must be a 386 or better computer to run
linux. Note that it is also recommended tht it have more than 32M of RAM
and more than 1GB or hard disk.
>or if you know of a linux that is easier to install and has more useful
>things for the web-surfer/web-page-maker/email-reader i would appreciate
>it.
Most distros. I use Mandrake. Others use Redhat. Both are userfriendly
in installation ( although that still makes them somewhat intimidating
at times).
>please? thanks for your patience and i can't wait till the break
>b.gates. will computers become cheaper after the doj's decision? will
>there be more choice? should i wait and if so for what kinda machine?
Computers are already very very cheap. -- A cheap $500+monitor Celeron
system is really a very powerful beast. I would get at least a 17"
monitor to go with it.
>this is not a joke post.
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Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:23:21 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (s_Ea_DAag0n) writes:
[snip]
> There are various other limitations; for example, on X you have to have
> the fonts installed client-side (which is a _major_ inconvenience when
> you run something like Mentor Graphics which has its own suite of
> fonts).
Just use the font server from the remote machine.
[snip]
> Sure, but it doesn't work with X. The X protocol is not capable of
> reconnecting to a different server. I know a thing or two about this.
> In a past life, I was on a team developing an X app, where all of the
> customers had two different monitors. Since each monitor was a different
> display, there was no way to move the window from monitor to monitor.
> The only solution was to write a "switch display" button on each dialog
> box which would re-construct the window on a separate display, and then
> destroy the current one. X doesn't support redrawing an existing windows
> on a new display, and AKAIF no available X apps will do this.
XFree86 has xinerma support, which is what you are describing.
[snippage]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 not recognizing 384MB RAM
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:32:55 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:49:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My Linux box will not recognize the 384MB of RAM I have installed,
This is an FAQ and you could have easily found the answer by searching
Deja before posting. At any rate, in /etc/lilo.conf, in the global
section (up at the top of the file, by "boot=" and such):
append = "mem=384M"
Then re-run /sbin/lilo and reboot.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: John Unekis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Time for the MS-rats to desert
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:52:00 -0400
There is an old joke about a hooker who goes into a bar, orders a drink, and pays
with a 20-dollar bill.
The bartender holds the 20 up to the light and remarks - "Hey, you can't use
this, this $20 is counterfeit!"
To which the hooker exclaims - "Oh, no, I've been raped!"
Now that Microsoft stock is in free-fall, quickly heading for under $50/share,
there must be a lot
of Code-Ho's up in Redmond who have sold their souls to Bill for stock options,
dreaming of
retiring young and rich, who are now realizing they've been raped.
I noticed that Microsoft is reimbursing its senior managers for their stock
losses with new stock options which
are adjusted for the lower share price.
For regular employees, MS is encouraging them to take a "long term view".
The only thing long-term at Microsoft is the duration of the screwing that
employees are getting.
I imagine that it is going to become very difficult to find u-haul trailers in
the Redmond area as more and more victims of the "Cult of Bill" awaken from their
trances and decide to show Microsoft a long-term view of their ass.
Remember all you Microserfs, the ones who bail first will get all the good jobs
down in Silicon valley, the stragglers will end up fetching them coffee....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Factory pre-installed Linux.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:43:26 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:48:11 -0400, Rich C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> OK, lets say we can get some OEM's to do a good job at factory
>> pre-installation. The box arrives at the door, excited, happy user
>> connects the color coded wires, and violla! It boots. What should that
>> user see?
>>
>> What kind of startup screen? Presumably an initial startup program that
>> creates a new user name and password? Music?
>
>No music. Not if it's Midi. I hate that stuff. I always turn it off and I
>hate when people send me those on-line "cards" with midi files playing.
There's no good reason such 'music' couldn't be mp3.
>
>First thing: You should be given a "stock" root password (like one of those
>free ISP signup disks). Once you log in, you should be FORCED to change it.
>
>Next, a real user account should be set up. The screen should explain why
>you need one, and not to log in as root unless you need to.
Actually, there should be an Xsu that would allow you to run
admin utilties as root only when necessary. The end user should
never need to be logged in as root (either on the console or an
xterm).
>
>Next, something like the "Add dialup connection" in windows where you plug
>in your ISP's phone number, your user name and password. Alternatively, if
>the system "comes" with internet access, this can be pre-configured.
...preconfiguration should be arrangement. The easiest sort of
thing to do is nothing at all...
I think one of the bay area VARs do this already.
>
>Next, a utility to BACK ALL THIS UP on disk, so it can be restored if the
>system needs to be reinstalled. The back-up CD should put the system to
...or alternately, develop the filesystem such that the core OS
is NEVER touched. In this way it would be like a sort of virtal
ROM (ala the Atari ST). Then only let apps touch the non core
parts of the system.
>EXACTLY the same state as when the user first turns it on, with the
>exception that this back up disk is requested, and the settings can be
>restored, including the user's account and password settings. (Obviously, if
>the user changes any of this info, the backup disk should be recreated.
>Perhaps a prompt to do this when any utility is invoked to change the
>password file, network settings, or the like. This can all be done with
>scripts invoked from the menus. Knowledgable users can simply invoke the
>passwd command if they wish and bypass the handholding.)
>
>>
>> Here is a list of "pre-configured" apps that must be setup and ready to
>> function:
>>
>> Applix or StarOffice (Depending on the kind of deal you can get)
>> Netscape, of course. With Shockwave and RealAudio
>
>don't forget ICQ and AOL IM clients!
...those might come along for the ride when GNOME and KDE get installed.
>
>> KDE and/or Gnome (I prefer KDE)
>> AcrobatReader
>> Java
>> Modem setup and configured.
>> PPP dialup ready to go with modem and dhcp.
>> Sound card setup and configured.
>> Video setup and configured.
>> Optional network, setup and configured.
>
>If the Linux machine has a modem AND a network connection, you should assume
>that the machine will be some kind of home network proxy server, and
>additional utilities should help the user SECURELY set up services like
Actually, it would make more sense for there to be some sort of
good default configuration. Ideally, the default configuration
shouldn't need to be altered. The easiest thing to do is 'nothing'.
[deletia]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Factory pre-installed Linux.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:46:42 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:40:04 CEST, Pim van Riezen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tapped some keys and produced:
>
>> > Why? The kernel messages are very useful if something goes kaput. If
>> > you're looking at your pretty picture of a penguin (or whatever logo
>> > you would have a booting system display), something goes wrong, and it
>> > just freezes, you're no better off then you are with Windows.
>>
>> I agree, I like the fact that RH6.x has the color coded messages on
>> bootup that tell you whether a driver or daemon loaded correctly or
>> failed to load. You can quickly see if your boot is going normally or if
>> you have a problem, because the messages go by way too fast to read (on
>> my PII 450 anyway.)
>>
>> [snip other stuff I agree with]
>
>The point is, that the kernel messaages are only useful when something goes
>wrong. They're annoying and potentially confusing when it doesn't. Take a
>look at two other systems and their boot sequence:
They are neither actually.
They are merely informative. Plus, you never know when you might
need them. It is far better to leave them be and merely put up a
"Don't Panic" message for the end user.
>
>1.Mac
>Every subsystem that is loaded (in the MacOS context an extension) displays
>an icon when it is done. If a subsystem has an error, the icon will be
>marked with a cross through it. An error may or may not be shown.
This is cryptic and only minimally discriptive. It's not much
better than the complete Information Hiding that Win9x does.
>
>2.IRIX
>The system starts up in a "pretty" screen, which only tells which subsystems
>are being started. If one of the startup scripts dumps an error to stderr,
>the pretty screen is replaced by a console window which shows the actual
>errors.
>
>Easier to use, easier to diagnose when something actually _goes_ wrong and
>sure as hell both less ugly to look at.
How is this easier to use than something that displays all information
where it is clearly visible? The only real difference is that it might
be a little prettier than what Redhat or Caldera does.
[deletia]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Government to break up Microsoft
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:52:03 GMT
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:19:03 +1000, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8e1q5m$n8l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> If, like me, you are concerned about the fact Microsoft has frozen
>> progress in every software industry segment they have entered, here's
>> good news:
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2076-2000Apr23.html
>>
>> Office will be broken up into a separate company. This company will
>> be free to port Office to Linux, BeOS, PalmOS etc. Office, together
> ^^^^^^
>Office on Palm ? That'd be interesting....
>
>> with business applications written in Java will make all these
>> alternative platforms viable.
>
>*IF* Office got ported. What reason would this newly founded company have
>to expend significant amounts of money porting Office to sell to such tiny
>markets ?
...they already support Macintosh. Markets don't get much smaller
than that. If they do their engineering right, the cost of subsequent
ports won't even be that extreme. It's the rediculous insistence on
using the most proprietary means possible (likely driven by the OS
group and it's need to remain dominant) that would make porting Office
problematic.
Star Division was a dinky (primarily german language) office competitor
and it still managed to produce an OS/2 version.
A Linux port would address (or rather should, if done right) any other
compatible OS. Depending on how bright the porter is, this could merely
mean all the Unixen, or all the Unixen and BeOS and MacOS and Win32 and
OS/2.
>
>> Microsoft will no longer be able to leverage their monopoly in desktop
>> operating systems to foreclose competition in productivity software.
>
>Microsoft acquired their commanding position in productivity software by
>having the best software available.
No, they got where they were by being percieved as 'the big player'
and by ensuring that life would be difficult for anyone that chose
another product for whatever reason.
[deletia]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: KDE is better than Gnome
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:56:20 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:22:44 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:13:15 +0100, David Faure
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >David Steuber wrote:
>> >> If you want to argue about which Corba ORB to standardize on, that
>is
>> >> an entirely different ball of wax. I think that it would be good
>to
>> >> have either one ORB or have Corba servers and clients work with all
>> >> ORBs. Then you can drag a file from KFM and drop it on GIMP to
>edit
>> >> it or whatever. Maybe you can already do that. I haven't tried
>it.
>> >CORBA has nothing to do with Drag and drop. You can't drag from KFM
>and
>> >drop on gimp, but you can drag from konqueror and drop on gimp, since
>> >Qt 2.x / KDE 2.x use the XDND protocol.
>> [deletia]
>>
>> The Gimp should have access to xdnd.
>>
>> Just because an application programmer has access to all the bells
>> and whistles, it doesn't mean that the programmer will use them.
>
>Jedi, read what he wrote. He said Gimp HAS access to XDND, in fact,
He also said that you can't drag from kfm to gimp. KFM is
supposed to be conformant to the same standards as the rest
of KDE is it not?
>he said Gimp USES XDND. I don't know if what he said is correct, not
>using Gimp at all, but at least try to argue about what is there.
...there was more there than the little bit you chose to
hark upon...
Although, I am sorry I missed that 'nice' implication earlier.
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From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux v. BeOS
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:37:14 -0500
Does anyone know how BeOS has set up its OS so that when you add a
processor in SMP you get near double the performance without having to
rewrite the applications or having to reinstall the OS? I've asked
around, and from what I can tell, Linux does not have this
capabilility. Is there anything fundamental stopping Linux from having
this type of functionality? Are there any plans to add this
functionality to Linux? Thanks for the input.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfgang Weisselberg)
Subject: Re: Adobe FrameMaker available on Linux
Date: 26 Apr 2000 18:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Apr 2000 02:09:33 GMT,
David Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> getting the help to work. I installed FM in /opt and, like they said on
> the web page, untarred the manuals and help files to
> /opt/FM556_linux/fminit/usenglish/, but when I try Help|Contents,
> Help|Index, etc., it tells me it "Cannot find online help
> files. Reinstall the help system and try again." Since I know they're
> there (I just untarred them), how can I know where it's looking?
Ever heard of a utility called trace, ptrace, truss or similar?
Under Linux it's commonly called strace. You might want to read
the manpage though.
-Wolfgang
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From: Subpop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:06:58 -0600
in article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 4/26/00 7:45 AM:
> Insert CD
> Wait for CD's autostart to ahem..auto start the CD
> Select options in autostart menu as appropriate
Of course, that is assuming that all CDs have an autostart feature on them..
(rhetorical statement: No, most CDs DON'T have autostart - usually only game
CDs do)
> Similar things happen if purchased with a restore CD:
> Insert CD into machine before bootup
> Boot off of CD
> CD asks if you want to restore image from CD
> Say Yes
> done...
Unless, of course, you are running from a new computer that has the BIOS
factory set to search HD before CD (most manufacturers do this - its
supposed to make the computer look like it is booting faster.. :P )
In this case it is "Okay, what make is your computer again?.. Oh, reboot,
press F1... no the key at the top of your computer that says F1.. Now that
you're in BIOS settings, try to find where the start up sequence is.. "
Yes, MUCH easier than the standard "Hold down the C key.. good."
Of course, also, some people don't feel like erasing their hard drives -
they just want to install components.. Good luck with a run-of-the-mill
restore CD..
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