Linux-Advocacy Digest #732, Volume #28 Tue, 29 Aug 00 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Ok, yeah, Visual Basic sucks, but... (Greg Horne)
Re: Drestin Lack-of-facts... (Greg Horne)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Donovan
Rebbechi)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Roberto
Alsina)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:36:41 -0400
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > >
> > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But the USA is the only country where the leftists
> have committed
> > > > > > > > > > to causing societal collapse from within. If the US
> is weakened,
> > > > > > > > > > the rest of the world is easily blackmailed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What exactly are you talking about? The more "leftist"
> countries, on
> > > > > > > > > average, have lower poverty rates and better educational
> systems than we
> > > > > > > > > do. How do you account for this? Do they simply have
> fewer of these
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The leftists in THIS country are in collaboration with the
> leftists
> > > > > > > > in the other countries. The overall goal is to weaken the
> US relative
> > > > > > > > to the other countries, so that the US will become even
> weaker than
> > > > > > > > them. Simply put...a large percentage of the education
> establishment
> > > > > > > > should be put on trial for treason.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you not have a brain capable of figuring this out
> yourself?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aaron, are you claiming that there is a conspiracy between
> school
> > > > > > > teachers in the US, and, say, the french education minister,
> to
> > > > > > > make the french students superior to the US ones?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The NEA leadership is overrun with Marxists.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the NEA?
> > > >
> > > > National Education Association, the leftist union that controls
> the
> > > > teaching establishment.
> > >
> > > Then you have not answered my question.
> >
> > You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink....
>
> Ok, you got the ad hominem out of your system.
>
> Can you answer my question now?
>
> Even if the NEA was a nest of marxists, that would not
> be proof of the conspiracy, because for a conspiracy
> you need at least two parts, and you need to show
> them communicating.
Are you alleging that the NEA leadership doesn't communicate with
each other, and the rank and file?
What's the purpose of having an organization if nobody within
it communicates?
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:52:19 -0300
"Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
>
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > > >
> > > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But the USA is the only country where the leftists
> > have committed
> > > > > > > > > > > to causing societal collapse from within. If the US
> > is weakened,
> > > > > > > > > > > the rest of the world is easily blackmailed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What exactly are you talking about? The more "leftist"
> > countries, on
> > > > > > > > > > average, have lower poverty rates and better educational
> > systems than we
> > > > > > > > > > do. How do you account for this? Do they simply have
> > fewer of these
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The leftists in THIS country are in collaboration with the
> > leftists
> > > > > > > > > in the other countries. The overall goal is to weaken the
> > US relative
> > > > > > > > > to the other countries, so that the US will become even
> > weaker than
> > > > > > > > > them. Simply put...a large percentage of the education
> > establishment
> > > > > > > > > should be put on trial for treason.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you not have a brain capable of figuring this out
> > yourself?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aaron, are you claiming that there is a conspiracy between
> > school
> > > > > > > > teachers in the US, and, say, the french education minister,
> > to
> > > > > > > > make the french students superior to the US ones?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The NEA leadership is overrun with Marxists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the NEA?
> > > > >
> > > > > National Education Association, the leftist union that controls
> > the
> > > > > teaching establishment.
> > > >
> > > > Then you have not answered my question.
> > >
> > > You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink....
> >
> > Ok, you got the ad hominem out of your system.
> >
> > Can you answer my question now?
> >
> > Even if the NEA was a nest of marxists, that would not
> > be proof of the conspiracy, because for a conspiracy
> > you need at least two parts, and you need to show
> > them communicating.
>
> Are you alleging that the NEA leadership doesn't communicate with
> each other, and the rank and file?
>
> What's the purpose of having an organization if nobody within
> it communicates?
Argh, could you read the question I originally asked you????
--
Roberto Alsina
------------------------------
From: Greg Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ok, yeah, Visual Basic sucks, but...
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:41:17 -0500
Java comes to mind for network programming relatively easily and using most
of the same function calls as Visual Basic. I have not done much visually
oriented programming for Linux, mostly low-level coding, so I cannot
comment on other languages for Linux programming. By the way, Java was not
used for the low-level coding, just to avoid any remarks from the peanut
gallery. ;-)
There is a VB-like programming environment being developed for Linux but
the name escapes me at the moment. As to the client server app you and
your teacher downloaded, you can do the same thing in Java.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry, this is probably geared more towards the programmers in this
> newsgroup, but I have a question:
>
> They're making me take VB 6 as part of my studies at school. Me and one
> of the instructors were a little bored so we downloaded some sample VB
> code that sets up a server and client chat program.
>
> Took us about 15 minutes to get it working, and there was probably less
> than 100 lines of code (error handling included), and after a few
> minutes, we were already playing around with the data we were sending
> back and worth (not just text messages but modifications and function
> outputs using the text messages as input, etc.). Real easy stuff. The
> basis for the chat program is the use of the Microsoft Winsock control,
> which probably has its limitations etc. etc. but I had to say I was
> impressed with how quickly we could have started something big based on
> this one control.
>
> In my spare time I'm trying to learn GTK+ programming, and I was
> wondering if there was anything comparable to this sort of control
> available for Linux programmers? A bonobo component, maybe?
>
> Methods were: Accept, Bind, Close, Connect, GetData, Listen, PeekData,
> SendData
>
> Properties were: BytesReceived, Index, LocalHostName, LocalIP,
> LocalPort, Name, Object, Parent, Protocol, RemoteHostName, RemoteIP,
> RemotePort, SocketHandle, State, Tag
>
> Don't know if it inherits from a different class or anything like that.
>
> (ps: I know some of those properties wouldn't be present in a linux
> implementation, I just included them for the hell of it...)
>
> -ws
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Gregory D. Horne L I N U X .~.
Systems Analyst The Choice /V\
of a GNU /( )\
Generation ^^-^^
------------------------------
From: Greg Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drestin Lack-of-facts...
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:31:58 -0500
Aaron, could you kill your extended signature? No self-respecting Unix
engineer has a signature that exceeds the length of most of his messages.
Sorry this is not meant as a flame only a glowing ember. ;-)
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> Troll must have crawled back under his bridge.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
>
> C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> that she doesn't like.
>
> D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
>
> E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> response until their behavior improves.
>
> G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> H: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
Gregory D. Horne L I N U X .~.
Systems Analyst The Choice /V\
of a GNU /( )\
Generation ^^-^^
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 16:56:23 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:05:02 GMT, Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> 1) uses its influence to oppose the privatization of public education
>in
>> the United States
>>
>> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/faq.html
>
>Position that could be taken because they would like universal
>availability of education...
So they're "communists" ! This is PROOF !
>> 2) subjects all of its members to a kind of secret code and collective
>> discipline
>>
>> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/code.html
>
>So does the rotary club ;-)
Perhaps the rotary club is in on the conspiracy ! Why not ? It seems like
everyone else is part of it. I almost feel left out. Why wasn't I invited
to be a part of it ?
I teach at a University. I feel like I'm missing a valuable opportunity
to indoctrinate my students ! Perhaps I should modify the books problems ...
Instead of
"Cathy starts walking at 4MPH at 9:00 AM and Udit jogs along
the same path at 6MPH, at 10AM ... "
How about this:
"Comrade Kandinsky starts walking to a greenpeace meeting at 9:00 AM at
4MPH. His boyfriend, comrade Alexandrov eats a hearty vegetarian meal,
and runs towards the same place at a rate of 6MPH at 9:30 AM. "
>Anyway, the code is not secret, it's there!
The funny thing about this so-called conspiracy is this -- how can it
be kept a "secret" that only Kulkis knows about if so many people are
involved ...
>> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/interntl.html
>
>Apparently so does Clinton, according to that page :-)
Clinton's definitely in on this.
>Well, they are a union,
So they MUST be COMMUNISTS. What more proof do we need ?
--
Donovan
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:13:20 -0300
Donovan Rebbechi escribi�:
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:05:02 GMT, Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> >> 1) uses its influence to oppose the privatization of public education
> >in
> >> the United States
> >>
> >> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/faq.html
> >
> >Position that could be taken because they would like universal
> >availability of education...
>
> So they're "communists" ! This is PROOF !
Of course! not only availability of education, but of RE-EDUCATION!
> >> 2) subjects all of its members to a kind of secret code and collective
> >> discipline
> >>
> >> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/code.html
> >
> >So does the rotary club ;-)
>
> Perhaps the rotary club is in on the conspiracy ! Why not ? It seems like
> everyone else is part of it. I almost feel left out. Why wasn't I invited
> to be a part of it ?
Well, think about it. The Rotary club's logo... a cog. A classical
piece of socialist realism iconography!
> I teach at a University. I feel like I'm missing a valuable opportunity
> to indoctrinate my students ! Perhaps I should modify the books problems ...
You know, I used to teach at one, too.... maybe the conspiracy has not
reached there yet :-)
> Instead of
>
> "Cathy starts walking at 4MPH at 9:00 AM and Udit jogs along
Udit? That is SO obviously a slavic name! You could just as well
call her comrade Alexandrovna!
> the same path at 6MPH, at 10AM ... "
>
> How about this:
>
> "Comrade Kandinsky starts walking to a greenpeace meeting at 9:00 AM at
> 4MPH. His boyfriend, comrade Alexandrov eats a hearty vegetarian meal,
> and runs towards the same place at a rate of 6MPH at 9:30 AM. "
Aha!
> >Anyway, the code is not secret, it's there!
>
> The funny thing about this so-called conspiracy is this -- how can it
> be kept a "secret" that only Kulkis knows about if so many people are
> involved ...
Well, I am sure looking around I can find a page about it in the
internet...
Well, not too good:
"--Reed, Sally D., NEA (National Education Association): Propaganda
Front of the
Radical Left. 1984. ("Nothing short of total control of the young
generations
mental and moral development will satisfy the NEA.")"
it's a book reference, at least ;-)
and...
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/cfr.html
Yes! The trilateral commision and Zbygnew are on it too!
I also found
http://home.columbus.rr.com/fnfal308/Authority--Resistance%20or%20Obedience.html
and
http://members.tripod.com/~bcbruns/nea.htm
but just because as every communist knows, marxist dialectic
requires thesis and antithesis for synthesis!
> >> http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/interntl.html
> >
> >Apparently so does Clinton, according to that page :-)
>
> Clinton's definitely in on this.
>
> >Well, they are a union,
>
> So they MUST be COMMUNISTS. What more proof do we need ?
Sorry, silly me ;-)
--
Roberto Alsina
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