Linux-Advocacy Digest #187, Volume #29 Mon, 18 Sep 00 18:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time? ("Greg
Topf")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Jason Bowen)
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) (Jason Bowen)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Jason Bowen)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:29:10 -0400
Jack Troughton wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Jason Bowen wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Jason Bowen wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> In article <39c5a0bf$1$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >> Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >On 09/18/2000 at 01:48 AM,
> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I have proof for the levels of CFC's leveling off, any study on cfc's
> > > >> >> proves it and lo and behold it coincides with the banning of the said
> > > >> >> products.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >You are a liar. You have some measurements which MAY POSSIBLY indicate
> > > >> >that. However, only several centuriy's worth of measurement can prove it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Like I said they are theories and you are to ignorant to look at them
> > > >> because you have a belief system that you don't want to challenge. You
> > > >> are a hollow shell of a man.
> > > >
> > > >SIT DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP...you control-freak asshole.
> > >
> > > I'm saying here are some ideas to think about and you'd rather just think
> > > you own way. Your the asshole. Who is wanting to control? You're
> > > fucking scared of thinking that maybe something might be different.
> > >
> >
> > You are a brainwashed stupid fuck propagating lies and propaganda.
> >
> > Sit down and shut the fuck up.
>
> There we have it folks; proof that Aaron doesn't believe in the free
> expression of ideas.
>
> Your solution to disagreement is to enforce silence.
>
> That's called fascism.
No...FASCISM is a socio-economic model characterized by a vertically
integrated commercial sector, and where the business sector essentially
"owns" the government (much like Japan).
Since you also appear to be an ignorant fuck, then I suggest
that YOU, too need to SIT DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>
> Jack
> Montreal PQ
> CANADA
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:40:08 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> >Replacing default NC_PAINT behavior is performs the same
>> >> >function as replacing the window manager in X.
>> >>
>> >> Except you can use a commonly available alternative window manager with
>> >> X, and there is no such thing with monopoly crapware.
>> >
>> >Never seen Window Blinds, have you?
>> >
>> >www.windowblinds.com
>>
>> Never seen anyone using it.
>
>Doesn't change the fact you said you couldn't do this. Further, the 1.3
>version has had over 2 million downloads from www.download.com alone.
Did I say "you cannot do this?" I think not. I said it isn't commonly
available, and observed that nobody that I know of is using this (and I
have several thousands more people that I'd know about beyond my 'circle
of friends' if they were). Millions of downloads become millions of
'download directory ware'; I'm sure at least half of them even bothered
to try it. Eventually, though, the first time Microsoft crap software
started belching on them, they stopped in hopes it might fend off the
coming doom. By the time they're ready to re-install their whole OS,
most people don't even consider going with any of this kind of fancy
stuff. There's no value proposition.
[...]
>> >Really, I seem to be able to run X clients just fine under Windows.
>>
>> Not without an X server add-on, you can't.
>
>You said only that "such things are available on Unix, and are not on
>Windows". Available does not mean "ships with the OS".
Neither does "1.3 million downloads", I'm afraid. Available in this
respect would mean 'widely implemented alternative'. You've heard of
'network effect', I'm sure. Well, this isn't that. But its close. Its
the reason that all those OEM's testified, according to Judge Jackson,
that there "was no commercially available alternative" to Microsoft's
products. It means it would have cost them too much money to bother
trying to avoid the monopoly, not that any random functional technology
was not available at a worthwhile cost with which to replace it, if they
could have avoided the anti-competitive actions which would deter their
'defection'.
>Stop backpeddling.
Believe me, numbnuts; I don't need to backpeddle. Just because you are
still failing to understand what I'm trying to explain to you, and I
don't generally lose patience trying, does not mean I'm backpeddling.
It means your insistence that you've understood what I said to begin
with is an empty pretense.
"The significance of those cases, for this Court's purposes, is to teach
that resolution of product and market definitional problems must depend
upon proof of commercial reality, as opposed to what might appear to be
reasonable. In both cases the Supreme Court instructed that product and
market definitions were to be ascertained by reference to evidence of
consumers' perception of the nature of the products and the markets for
them, rather than to abstract or metaphysical assumptions as to the
configuration of the "product" and the "market." Jefferson Parish, 466
U.S. at 18; Eastman Kodak, 504 U.S. at 481-82.
"In the instant case, the commercial reality is that consumers today
perceive operating systems and browsers as separate "products," for
which there is separate demand. Findings �� 149-54. This is true
notwithstanding the fact that the software code supplying their discrete
functionalities can be commingled in virtually infinite combinations,
rendering each indistinguishable from the whole in terms of files of
code or any other taxonomy. Id. �� 149-50, 162-63, 187-91."
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f4400/4469.htm
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Greg Topf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98
Subject: Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:39:30 GMT
Actually its not common, its not an indication of the default behavior of
win98 at all, you likely either have a hardware or software problem
somewhere. I, as well as many of my clients, have win98 boxes running, and,
in fact, being used daily, up for weeks on end without so much as a
hiccup....
--
Greg M. Topf
MCP+I. MCSE (NT4, Win2k)
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From: Jason Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:37:47 -0600
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> JS/PL wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > Tell me....were you an outcast in high school....
> >
> > Tell me....are you an outcast in high school....
>
> No. But most control-freaks like you guys were losers in high school
Since you failed at a logical argument you make personal attacks. It is
delicious watching somebody claiming to be so intelligent falling to
this level.
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> their behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:31:39 -0400
Jack Troughton wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Jason Bowen wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob Germer wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 09/18/2000 at 06:38 AM,
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> > > >
> > > > > Except I didn't do that. I pointed to some facts and didn't make claims
> > > > > as fact. CFC's are man made and the CO2 level is verifiably higher than
> > > > > it has been in 600k years.
> > > >
> > > > You claim the CO2 level is higher now that it was 600 years ago based on
> > > > experiments on artic ice. You claim that CO2 levels are higher in North
> > > > America when the facts prove they are in deficit!
> > >
> > > You don't understand what is being discussed. North America as a continent
>produces less CO2
> > > than the plant life on it consumes. The rest of the world produces way more
>than is consumed.
> > > It is called the addtive property of numbers and perhaps and elementary algebra
>class will help
> > > you understand.
> >
> > Then maybe you ought to convince those OTHER countries to reform THEIR
> > ways, and keep your fucking opinions to yourself in this country.
> >
> > MORON
>
> You really are into silencing dissent, aren't you? I was under the
No. I'm into getting the Ignorami among us to stop spreading their
baseless PROPAGANDA.
> impression that the intellectual foundations of the US system of
> governance were all about making sure that people didn't keep their
> opinions to themselves.
Are you saying arguing that it is good to NOT oppose liars....
>
> Pity or contempt... either you are too stupid to argue, or too evil
> to argue. Take your pick.
>
> Jack
> Montreal PQ
> CANADA
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:42:30 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>> >
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >I hate to break it to you but - you are supporting Windows. You are
>> >unnecessarily relying on the very company you are bashing, which only
>> >mirrors you ingnorance to the world.
>>
>> So now "supporting" becomes "relying on"?
>
>No - it becomes "unnecessarily relying on", dim bulb... notice the word
>"unnecessarily".
Care to supply the amazing amount of research you've done to determine
if I or ELTRAX has incorrectly determined what is necessary for us to
run out business?
>>Why the hell do you think
>> they were convicted of federal crimes, you moron?
>
>Why the hell do you think each finding will be thrown out by smarter judges
>in the appeals court and higher?
Because I'm not foolish enough to think that Jackson isn't a smart
judge.
[...]
>Less expensive than "free".
No, less expensive than 'avoiding the monopoly'.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:43:44 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said James Stutts in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said James Stutts in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>> >
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >> What the fuck are you talking about? It is less expensive, less
>> >> *commercially feasible*, for me to use monopoly crapware than to
>> >
>> >Less expensive? Really? You must be a recent computer user, than.
>> >Ever priced IRIX?
>>
>> <chuckle> I didn't mean the explicit price of the package, but the
>> overall 'cost', including the 'price' of incompatibility, etc.
>
>Incompatibility? In what way? Our NT clients can communicate quite easily
>to our Linux servers.
Not the prosaic way you're thinking of, certainly. If I am
inconvenienced by having to *avoid* a monopoly; if I have to even think
for a moment about having to *work around them*, and I would, since I
serve a large market which is still locked in to the monopoly, it is
costing me money.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
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accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:51:29 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[...]
>Sun knew this going in, to both ECMA *AND* ISO. They *KNEW* that they would
>lose their copyright, yet they pretended they were seriously interested in
>releasing their product to both the ISO and ECMA. In other words, they
>lied.
You'll have to take that up with them. I believe they were told by the
these organizations that they would have adequate protection, because
they did not understand, as Sun does, what that actually entails.
"We encourage the community to compete on implementation, not on
standards," said Patricia C. Sueltz, president, Sun Software Products &
Platforms.
[...]
>> >"The 11th-hour move came as a surprise, because ECMA's treatment of
>> >copyright issues is well-established, and the deal to standardize Java
>> >through the group was struck in June, according to van den Beld.
>>
>> There seems to be some contradiction between 'well-established', and
>> 'formal'.
>
>The ECMA has had the same rules regarding copyright since 1961. That's both
>formal and well-established.
What rule is that? According to Sun, its 'no rule'.
"Sun noted that ECMA has formal rules governing patent protections;
however, at this time there are no formal protections for copyrights or
other intellectual property. Sun strongly believes ECMA needs to adopt
IPR (intellectual property rights) policies for the collective benefit
of its members and will continue to work actively in ECMA to assist in
developing those procedures.
"Sun, in recent years, has been the most active ECMA member when it
comes to generating new TCs (Technical Committees)-- 4 of the last 5 --
that have resulted in many new ECMA members; TC37-API for Windows, TC
39-ECMA Script, TC40-Object Data Interfaces, and TC41 have all come to
ECMA due to Sun initiatives. Sun has also been, and will continue to be,
an active participant in the management activities of ECMA, taking
active roles in the General Assembly and the Coordinating Committee."
I would say that van den Beld might simply not understand or agree with
Sun's reasoning. But it is their technology, and the 'wasted man-hours'
could have been avoided without sacrificing the man-decades of public
Java work. Neither your quote nor mind provides enough information to
know what the real issues are, but you seem familiar with the ECMA, so
perhaps you'll describe the rules more directly, and we can discuss
them, if you'd like.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
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From: Jason Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:43:30 -0600
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Jason Bowen wrote:
> >
> > "Joe R." wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Jason Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > I'm not the moron here. Temperature determines CO2 levels that is rich.
> > > >
> > > > Yes Kulkis, how exactly does temperature determine CO2 levels in the
> > > > atmosphere? Thats such an assinine statement it should be fun watching you
> > > > dig a deeper hole trying to explain it.
> > > > Does "magic" somehow figure into your temp. to co2 equation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually, temperature _does_ have an impact on CO2 levels.
> > >
> > > Within normal limits, higher temperatures tend to increase plant growth.
> > > That means more CO2 is tied up in the plant.
> > >
> > > Of course, that's only one of several thousand things that affect CO2
> > > levels, though.
> >
> > You're not helping Aaron though. If more plants grow at a higher
> > temperature than they use more CO2. Where is the CO2 coming from????
>
> ANIMALS. Higher temps mean MORE ANIMALS doing more things, reproducing
> more, etc.
>
Provide some numbers Aaron. Show that higher temperature corellate to a
higher CO2 level from animals. You must have access to data showing
this unless you are just talking about a theory.
> > Lets increase the average daytime temperature to 110F and then again
> > tell me about the plants. I'd watch most everthing around here wither.
> > Plants thrive because of a variety of factors. You can have a lush
> > forest in a cool place and rising temperatures there would kill th
> > forest off.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> their behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Jason Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:45:59 -0600
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Jack Troughton wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Jason Bowen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >Jason Bowen wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In article <39c5a0bf$1$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > >> Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> >On 09/18/2000 at 01:48 AM,
> > > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I have proof for the levels of CFC's leveling off, any study on cfc's
> > > > >> >> proves it and lo and behold it coincides with the banning of the said
> > > > >> >> products.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >You are a liar. You have some measurements which MAY POSSIBLY indicate
> > > > >> >that. However, only several centuriy's worth of measurement can prove it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Like I said they are theories and you are to ignorant to look at them
> > > > >> because you have a belief system that you don't want to challenge. You
> > > > >> are a hollow shell of a man.
> > > > >
> > > > >SIT DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP...you control-freak asshole.
> > > >
> > > > I'm saying here are some ideas to think about and you'd rather just think
> > > > you own way. Your the asshole. Who is wanting to control? You're
> > > > fucking scared of thinking that maybe something might be different.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are a brainwashed stupid fuck propagating lies and propaganda.
> > >
> > > Sit down and shut thek up.
> >
> > There we have it folks; proof that Aaron doesn't believe in the free
> > expression of ideas.
> >
> > Your solution to disagreement is to enforce silence.
> >
> > That's called fascism.
>
> No...FASCISM is a socio-economic model characterized by a vertically
> integrated commercial sector, and where the business sector essentially
> "owns" the government (much like Japan).
>
> Since you also appear to be an ignorant fuck, then I suggest
> that YOU, too need to SIT DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>
Fascists like forceable suppression too. They don't want dissension.
> >
> > Jack
> > Montreal PQ
> > CANADA
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> their behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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