Linux-Advocacy Digest #314, Volume #29 Tue, 26 Sep 00 07:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: filename extensions are NOT a kludge (No Name)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively (Bob Germer)
Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively (Bob Germer)
Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy? (Chris Sherlock)
Re: How low can they go...? ("JS/PL")
Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively (Chris Sherlock)
Re: New Linux Install (Chris Sherlock)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("JS/PL")
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:08:09 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
dc wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 02:39:59 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (C Lund) wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dc
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> This is a shining example of what I mean about Mac Advocay illiteracy.
> >> Heck, it's even better than CLund's utter lack of experience with
> >> NT/W2k.
> >
> >Maybe you should tell me what's new in W2K compared to W98...?
>
> <boggle>
lol!
Chris
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:28:56 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
dc wrote:
[snip]
> Then perhaps, among other things, your system admin has disabled the
> normal cached profiles. Normally when the NIC can't reach the PDC,
> the cached profiles will be used, the last known password that was
> cached will be used, and the user can access the system with those
> credentials until told otherwise.
Hold on. I can see a fairly big flaw in this... what if somehow someone
you didn't like got your old password. They would be able to access your
old profile! Surely W2K wouldn't allow for *this* to happen, would it?
If it does, please point me to a relevant URL!
[snip]
> >@If so, just
> >@log in remotely from another computer and clear off some disk space.
> >@It's something the local desktop support admin can do from the comfort
> >@of his office chair; I can't see why this is still a problem -
> >@literally 4 days (hasn't it been?) since you've notified us of the
> >@issue.
> >
> > 4 days since I posted, but 4 class days since it started. 4 class
> >days == 2 weeks.
>
> Tell your desktop support staff to fix it.
I agree. Isn't that what the support staff are *meant* to be doing?
Chris
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:39:32 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
So you're saying that W2K is the Titanic. I don't think that that helps
your argument at all!
Wouldn't it be ironic if W2k was sunk by a Penguin powered iceberg?
Chris
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "C Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dc
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > >> This is a shining example of what I mean about Mac Advocay illiteracy.
> > > >> Heck, it's even better than CLund's utter lack of experience with
> > > >> NT/W2k.
> > > >Maybe you should tell me what's new in W2K compared to W98...?
> > > <boggle>
> >
> > You're saying there's nothing new? Then I guess I'm as fluent with W2K as
> > I am with Win98.
>
> Your question is somewhat on the order of "So, what's the difference
> between the Titanic and a speed boat?"
>
> It's so obvious, it's not even worth mentioning, and the fact you
> asked the question shows that, even if we did answer, you still wouldn't
> comprehend because you don't even have a basic understanding.
>
> -Chad
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:56:25 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
[snip]
> There's KDE's window manager (I don't know what its name is --
> kdmdesktop? kdm? kde?). That replicates Win95's wm, to some extent.
Try kwm.
> There's gnome-wm. That also replicates Win95's wm, to some extent.
Personally, I like SawFish.
> There's Enlightenment.
I like this one too, but there is *way* too much duplication of GNOME to
really want to use it *with* GNOME. Turn off GNOME and it isn't half bad
(apparently pretty fast as well).
[snip]
>
> Whether the replication of an item indicates it's junk or not is
> not clear to me, but it does indicate that those who are familiar
> with Win95 will probably be familiar with those that do replicate,
> and they can then tweak things later, if they're so inclined.
I call it "choice" not junk!
> The Win32 protocol is junk, though. :-) (Totally different issue.)
I think that you mean the Win32 API but I think that we all know what
you mean. Personally I don't think that the C API is as clean as GTK's,
but this is just my opinion.
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Name)
Subject: Re: filename extensions are NOT a kludge
Date: 26 Sep 2000 09:41:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:27:13 GMT, Richard said:
>Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>>The way you are saying this makes it seem that any system
>
> <big snippage>
>Elegance, simplicity and beauty are universal concepts. There
>are objective principles that dictate whether something is
>elegant and beautiful or ugly. Christopher Alexander (the
>man who came up with Design Patterns) wrote about these
>principles in his On The Nature of Order.
>
Absolute nonsense. What is elegant and simple for somebody
living in NY and working in the NYSE is not necesarily so
for a Bushman aborigin in the Kalahari desert (Palm III was so,
but that is another history). And to say
beauty is an universal concept is ridiculous, the concept
of beauty changes between places, peoples and times.
There are not objective principles about beauty, elegance or
simplicity because they are non measurable, abstract concepts,
you can say something is fast or slow if you establish an
arbitrary limit between both adjectives and then go and measure
the speed of an object. And even that a certain Mr Einstein
showed us that is relative. Now tell me what is your objective
criteria to declare that something is elegant, simple or
beautiful?
And this is important when it comes to design, because it does
not matter what you design today and how elegant or simple it is
perceived to be today, tomorrow it surely will not be perceived as
elegant or simple (go an read articles about earlier user interfaces
, you will see mainly rave reviews, not most of them look and feel
clumsy, at least in my obviously not objective humble opinion).
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:01:57 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
What is the URL?
Chris
Jim Naylor wrote:
[snip]
> > Please note that Windows NT 4, which was released, was a *different*
> > product than NT 5, which was released under the name Windows 2000 so
> > Microsoft could have a cool-sounding product name.
>
> Like "Windows Me," which nicely creates a new verb (a synonym to
> "Buggers Me") for what they've been doing to you windoids all along. For
> corroboration, see Walter Mossberg's (!) column on "Windos ME" in the
> Wall Street Journal.
>
> --
> Jim Naylor
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:09:18 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
C Lund wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason McNorton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Maybe you should tell me what's new in W2K compared to W98...?
> > This is completely off topic, but.. I have to ask. Was it drugs or
> > schizophrenia that hit you in 1992 for you to produce those sketches on
> > your site?
>
> Neither. I have a very active imagination. And creative, imaginative
> people prefer the Mac to Windows.. ;)
This is very true. BTW, I really think that you're drawing are very
good! I wish that I could draw like that.
> > Their quality is quite good, but the content is far more twisted than
> > stuff I've seen come from extremely disturbed individuals. There's an
> > evilness and detached oddness to them that puts anything by HR Giger to
> > shame.
>
> I'll take that as a completment. I'm curious about the "evil" you mention.
> Where is it evident?
Ummm... http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/picts/sketch/920926.jpg has a
picture of a head on a stake. :)
Hey man, I'm not criticising you! I would never criticise a man you
draws a picture of head impaled on a stake!
Chris
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:18:10 GMT
On 09/25/2000 at 11:07 AM,
"Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Now that is just a DUMB statement. The latest games require a TON of
> computing power. Just because a machine doesn't do POS or database apps,
> it doesn't mean that it isn't a computer. Now quit talking out of your
> ass and make some sense.
The ability to play games is not a definition of a computer as far as I am
concerned. The ability to do real business world tasks is what a computer
is as far as I am concerned. Our clients do POS, need DB, need
Domino/Notes. They do not play games. They have no use for a machine which
cannot be productive in the real business world environment.
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 14
MR/2 Ice 2.20 Registration Number 67
Finishing in 2nd place makes you first loser
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:20:39 GMT
On 09/25/2000 at 10:49 AM,
"Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> As for censoring you from a news server I'd agree that it is wrong, and
> I ask bob to explain his statement.
We have a dozen people who work here who read news on this machine over
our network. Since I own the company, I decide what they can read via the
company hardware. They are informed anytime someone is killfiled. If
reading Malloy's, Wenham's, etc. crap is important, they are free to get
their own account. If they don't want to pay, then they accept the company
rules.
--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 14
MR/2 Ice 2.20 Registration Number 67
Finishing in 2nd place makes you first loser
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:23:41 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?
Perhaps so you can drag it around and put it on the desktop or in a
folder?
Chris
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> El jue, 14 sep 2000, Darin Johnson escribió:
> >Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Trick question: what's the point of selecting a single file?
> >
> >So you can select a menu options that operate on that file. The Mac
> >has only one mouse button remember, you can't just right click on it
> >to get extra options.
>
> Well, then I modify it to: "what is the point of selecting a single file
> if you have more than one button?"
>
> Also notice that it *is* possible to select a single file in KDE, you just
> do it in the same, consistent way as you would select the second one ;-)
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:35:47 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> [...]
> >> >You expect anyone with any Linux experience whatsoever to believe that
> >(of
> >> >all people) Microsoft?? makes it more expensive to use Linux? [...]
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course I do. Just as I expect anyone with more than half a brain to
> >> recognize what 'monopoly pricing' actually means, which is that it is
> >> greater than it would be in a competitive market.
> >
> >Considering that there IS competition in the operating system market
> >(see - http://tunes.org/Review/OSes.html )[...]
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm
> http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f4400/4469.htm
Got no use for findings of fiction that will be overturned by a wiser court.
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:45:56 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle uses Windows software almost exclusively
Well, then this is a good thing. I was always under the understanding
that they were pushing it quite a bit.
I obviously stand corrected.
Chris
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8qpnji$18p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > WINS has nothing to do with NetBEUI, and everything to do with NetBIOS
> over
> > TCP/IP. MS haven't pushed NetBIOS for years. They're also moving away
> from
> > NetBIOS over TCP/IP with Windows 2000.
>
> Slight typo, MS haven't pushed **NetBEUI** for years. Whoops...
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:47:20 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: New Linux Install
>From what I understand, the new LBA32 extensions in LILO will circumvent
this problem. I don't know much more about this as I haven't had to
worry about hitting the 1024 cylinder ceiling yet.
Would someone care to comment?
Chris
"James M. Luongo" wrote:
>
> I plan on installing Linux Mandrake 7.1 for the first time. I need some
> help. How big should the partitions be? And, I heard something about
> LiLo not recognizing a Linux partition after a certain disk cylinder (or
> sector, whatever). I think it was 1023, but I'm not sure. Is this
> true? Help!
> --
> ------------------------
> James M. Luongo x1427
> Draper Laboratory Room 4207
> ------------------------
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:53:20 -0400
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:14:56 -0400, JS/PL wrote:
> >
> >> But he's still going to win, because very few Americans will benefit
> >> from Bush's vision which seems to revolve around tax cuts for the
> >> aristocracy. The problem is that the vast majority of Americans have
> >> little to gain from Bush's policies. Not to mention that with Clinton's
> >> approval rating and the economy in their current state, Bush needs to
> >> come up with a more inspiring vision than handouts to the aristocracy.
> >
> >Maybe you should stop basing your political theory on Democrat
soundbites.
> >Handouts to the aristocracy?? Get real.
>
> Well it's pretty close to the truth. I mean, most of his "vision" is about
> giving tax cuts ( money ) to the high income earners. And that policy
> is great for the high income earners, but most Americans will not benefit
> from it.
>
> >And you do not know who's going to win, no one knows who is going to win.
>
> I don't know, but if I was a betting man, I know which way I'd bet.
>
> >Plus it doesn't matter, sounds like either way you'll still be asking
what
> >your country can do for you instead of what you can do for your country.
>
> Completely wrong.
>
> (a) The USA is "not my country". Since I'm a non-citizen, I doubt they'll
> do that much for me, and moreover, I really don't believe that they
> should.
>
> (b) I don't need them to do anything for me. I'm finishing a PhD in math,
> and the main problem I have with prospective employers is telling them
> to leave me alone so that I can get some work done. So no, I don't
> need anyone's charity.
>
> But your cheapshots do not alter the fact that Bush's policies offer very
> little to the average American family.
Then which part of this proposal do you find to be "handouts to aristocracy"
Tax Relief for Families of Four
A family of four making $35,000 will receive a $1,500 tax cut, a 100 percent
reduction.
A family of four making $50,000 will receive a $2,000 tax cut, a 50 percent
reduction.
A family of four making $75,000 will receive a $2,500 tax cut, a 25 percent
reduction.
Tax Relief for Single Parents
A single mother with one child making $22,000 will receive a $1,000 tax cut,
a 100 percent reduction.
A single mother with two children making $32,000 will receive a $1,500 tax
cut, a 95 percent reduction.
Notice the percentage which is cut as the income gets higher?
Governor Bush reached across party lines to deliver the two largest tax cuts
in Texas history: $1 billion in 1997 and $2 billion in 1999. Under Governor
Bush:
Texas has the 3rd lowest state tax burden in the country.
State budget surpluses have increased from $333 million to a high of $3.5
billion.
Texas remains one of only a handful of states without an income tax.
source http://www.georgewbush.com/issues.asp?FormMode=FullText&ID=3
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