Linux-Advocacy Digest #493, Volume #29 Fri, 6 Oct 00 18:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: RAID on Win2k Pro ("Adam Warner")
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix rules in Redmond ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix rules in Redmond ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix rules in Redmond ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: Migration --> NT costing please :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:07:59 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> Said Richard in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> >Much earlier, I defined 'being' as 'an entity with will'. "beinghood"
> >> >is "the property of being a being" ....
> >Because NOBODY ever uses consciousness to refer to this?
>
> I don't think that's true.
Did you ever bother to ask them?
> >How you still manage to communicate in any manner while redefining all
> >of these terms is a mystery to me.
>
> The trick is to only redefine things so that they are *more* accurate,
> consistent, and practical, rather than simply trying to suit them to
> your own private delusions, as you do, and then arrogantly ridiculing
> someone who points out that your definitions aren't merely not listed in
> a dictionary, but are contrary to it.
So this is why you redefine words in such a way that they flatly
contradict every other usage on the entire planet?
> >>And I'm sure you like to think that you're holding your own against me.
> Hardly. I happen to know that I'm showing you to be a fool, now for the
> third time (fourth, if you include your recent email response.)
<GRIN> I'll let people decide for themselves.
> I only post to COLA because I've chased all the morons off of the other
> two groups I subscribe to. COLA, I must admit, seems to be an unending
> fountain of stupidity along the lines you evidence. The shameful part
> is if you weren't such an arrogant idiot, you'd have a unique and
> interesting opinion to contribute. I don't find COLA any more vicious
> than any of the other fifty or so groups I've read routinely. Just
> larger.
LOL.
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: RAID on Win2k Pro
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:10:54 +1300
Hi Drestin,
> You are right - you need the Server edition (not Pro) to create RAID
> volumes. Sorry about that. I use server on just about everything (I
> advocate pro for end-users but I run server myself ("cause I want to")
> and didn't think before typing.
That's OK. I had wanted to do it with NT4 WS and at that time I found
Microsoft had disabled the feature.
Unfortunately I believe this is characteristic of Microsoft's respect for
my data: In this case Microsoft has gone out of its way to make sure that
I can't use a system of data protection that would save my data in event
of one of my hard disks failing. Why? Because they're not happy with me
just paying for a business OS for my computer.
Regards,
Adam
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:11:35 GMT
Roberto Alsina wrote:
> Well, if I just say "the united states of america", everyone will understand
> it. So why take chances, by using a less understandable version?
Because it's more precise and conveys more information?
Why convey little information to everyone when you can convey lots of
information to a few?
> I could say H2O instead of water, I could say Odiseus instead of Ulysses, I
> could say immortal instead of ageless.
Who wouldn't understand Odysseus ??
And H2O isn't the same thing as water.
> However, I would be using a less efficient mechanism of comunication, or
> rather, would use the mechanism of communication in a less efficient manner.
So you'd rather efficiently communicate nothing?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:14:35 -0400
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "." wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > "." wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:8riija$23c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > How it's SUPPOSED to work or how it actually DOES work? The two are
> >> >> >> > very different indeed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I suspect that no one in this thread understands the details of either one.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> One of the very interesting things that people of this type seem to miss is
> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> in actuality, only a very tiny percentage (if any at all) of their tax
>dollars
> >> >> > goes
> >> >> >> towards welfare at all. In fact, until the clinton administration, every
>last
> >> >> >> penny of the federal income tax of everyone who lived west of the missisippi
> >> >> >> river went toward paying off the interest on the national debt. Now that we
> >> >> >> have been running positive for a few years and tax spending has been
> >> >> > restructured
> >> >> >> nearly entirely, again, little or no amount of your taxes go towards
> >> >> > supporting
> >> >> >> anyone on welfare.
> >> >>
> >> >> > WHAT?! Are you kidding? Have you seen a recent budget? More than 1/3 of the
> >> >> > U.S. budget goes to supporting Welfare and welfare related programs.
> >> >>
> >> >> No, actually just a little bit less than 1/3 is dedicated to domestic social
> >> >> programs; ONE of which is welfare. Most of the rest are not related to
>welfare.
> >>
> >> > Hint fucking hint ... all 'social programs' are welfare.
> >>
> >> Oh really? Does that include federal support for college scolarships?
>
> > Government grants: Yes
>
> > Private grants and loans...no biggie, as they are not taxpayers' money.
>
> >> Job training?
>
> > Yes.
>
> >> Etc?
>
> > Yes.
>
> So what would you suggest we do with illiterate, untrained people?
make an example out of them to the nation's youth.
> Export them?
Who would want them
> Hang them?
Only after they commit a capital offense
>
I think that converting them into productive members of society is
> probably the most long-term-positive option. And who exactly is
> going to pay for that?
I have no problem wiht LOANS...but outright grants at taxpayer
expense are immoral...especially when said taxpayers already paid
for their OWN education.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix rules in Redmond
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:15:54 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
>
> > > Come on Mike, you know one answer doesn't fit every question. Obviously
> > > there are situations where Gig adapters will excel but not in the
> scenario I
> > > was discussing/discribing (unless I misunderstood the situation). I'm
> using
> > > gig over copper quite happily at two installations - we find multiple
> NICs
> > > perform better when there are more users doing large amounts of
> relatively
> > > small requests. When the transfers are long/streams the bigger
> individual
> > > pipes are the way to go. Depends on usage, I know you know that.
> >
> > Only on sucky MS operating systems that have difficult with
> > context switches.
>
> If I thought you even knew what you wrote means I would ask you to explain
> it but you don't and I won't.
When a poster resorts to sophistry, it's a sure sign that he has lost.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix rules in Redmond
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:16:19 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Drestin Black wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > what? WHAT? hahahahhahhhahahahahhhahahahaahhahhahhaahhhahahaahhaha
> > > > > <breath>
> > > > > hahahahhhahhahahahahahahaaahahahahahaaahahahhahahhaha
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No you know whe he's called Dresting LACK of facts...
> > >
> > > "No"? Perhaps you'd like to learn to spell/type before making shit up
> eh?
> >
> > Drestin Lack of facts.
> >
> > Happy now
>
> I'll be happy when you go away and stop using up bandwidth with that
> self-mocking .sig of yours (hasn't anyone told you how stupid it makes you
> look)?
Annoys the fuck out of YOU...doesn't it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix rules in Redmond
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:16:51 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rfm9h$r59$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:8rd6gr$26rc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >> > I'm sorry dude, but sometimes you hear something so silly you can't
> stop
> > >> > from laughing...
> > >>
> > >> > I'm sure he'll post the tux results ... it's all they've got...
> > >>
> > >> Dont you have something better to do?
> >
> > > Yup - it's what I do the rest of the time... right now I'm laughing at
> the
> > > sun rep who tried to sell some 10000s to one of my clients...
> >
> > Oh I remember you, youre the one that thinks (incorrectly) that microsoft
> > can compete in the heavy-server market. We've all been laughing at you
> > for some time.
>
> One name: "w2k data center"
Yeah, now show us one that actually works.
> - that's all I need say today. It'll speak for
> itself in months to come.
>
> >
> > And whos the client? I wont tell anyone, I promise. :)
> grow up.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:17:57 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rfmtf$r59$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:8rd9a4$26rc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> > news:8rbsj5$29bm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > why? are the linux IDE drivers that bad?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> No, but DMA is often optional. You can turn it on, you can turn it
> > > off.
> > >>
> > >> > Why wouldn't you want to use DMA?
> > >>
> > >> If you had read all of the posts in this thread dresden, you would
> > > understand
> > >> that both chad and I have covered that point in some detail.
> > >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You can also set its parameters in great detail. Its really very
> > > handy.
> > >>
> > >> > DMS parameters ... ALL of them, SO many of them.
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >> Depending on the hardware, up to 22 of them. But you probably didnt
> know
> > >> that, since you know next to nothing about computers.
> >
> > > or perhaps I a) don't use IDE unless I'm pennyless and b) couldn't care
> less
> > > about 20 of those and c) use operating systems whos drivers are already
> > > optimized enough that I don't NEED to deal with 20 of them. Lastly, why
> > > don't you talk to us about some of these 22 parameters and tell us just
> how
> > > they effect us and why we should need to know about them?
> >
> > Man hdparm. Look it up dresden, if youre at all capable.
>
> and I say: yawn. So? Again, I don't need to be concerned with it.
>
> >
> > Dont try to rope me into one of your 'you dont know what youre talking
> about'
> > circles, friend. Your argument style is childish and sophomoric and very
> > obviously self-serving to anyone with a single firing synapse.
>
> Funny - I've got you down as being the most prolific of these types of
> remarks. And, of course, I call them as I see them, so if you are used to
> seeing me write to you saying "you don't know what you're talking about"
> often - buy a clue! It's because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!
Funny...that's what we've noticed about you.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:19:28 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > How _do_ you turn off DMA on an IDE disk in NT? Probably a registry
> > > > key that's documented someplace in the bowels of MSDN. Where granma
> > > > won't ever find it.
> > >
> > > DMA is off by default for IDE devices with NT 3 and 4. You need to run a
> > > utility called DMACHECK to turn on it's DMA testing and enabling
> function.
> >
> > That's stupid.
> >
>
> oh yea, likes it's SO much easier/smarter(?) to use hdparm instead?
> ahhahahaahhaaa
Why would you have DMA off by default?
What's the fucking use of DMA equipment if you disable it?
are there even any disks made in the last 3 years w/o DMA capabilities?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:19:34 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> Said Richard in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >Since I now realize you've redefined the word 'consciousness'
> >in a manner alien to the rest of the planet, I haven't the
> >faintest clue what you originally meant.
>
> You don't know what you're talking about. Just pretend that instead of
> using the made-up term "beingness", you used the correct term
> 'consciousness'.
And of course, you know exactly what consciousness means because you
are so widely read on the topic of philosophy ....
But I'm sorry, I can't pretend to believe utter nonsense in order to
salvage your ego.
> My oh my. So you're not just stupid, you're dishonest, is that it? YOU
> were the one who said that lack of care for a child within the first
> three years of life leads to psychopathy.
No, that is not what I said. I said that lack of bonding caused by
extreme neglect in the first three years causes psychopathy (and if
I said anything else then I was being imprecise because the situation
did not call for that level of detail). Most child abuse does not
take this form.
> >Because I'm not a very nice person? Because the people I'm dealing
> >with are morons?
>
> Definitely the former. You're a cretin, most certainly; an archetypical
> one, in fact.
Please stop projecting yourself onto others.
> >For some bizarre definition of consciousness naturally. As for
> >enlightened self-interest, that's philosophy but I'm not even
> >saying *what* branch of philosophy because I know you disagree
> >and I'm *not* starting a philosophical discussion with you.
> No, you're not ending a philosophical discussion with me. Don't bother;
> allow me.
Ahhh, so you do take brutal hints in public.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Migration --> NT costing please :-)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:20:19 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:41:18 +1300, Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I've just set up two dual-processor Redhat GNU/Linux 7 computers both
> > >booting with RAID1 for high reliability. I am also making use of the
> newly
> > >GPLed MySQL on both computers.
> > >
> > >One computer provides NAT and IPChains firewalling services. Both also
> > >provide an Apache/PHP development environment.
> > >
> > >To set this all up has cost $0 for the software. Knowing that Microsoft
> > >provides a lower total cost of ownership ;-) I'd be interested to know
> what it
> > >would cost to move these computers to a full Microsoft solution.
> > >
> > >It appears I would need this software:
> > >
> > >1) 2xNT4 or Window 2000 Server licenses to provide RAID1 on both
> computers.
> > >2) 4xCPU licences for MS-SQL.
> > >3) 1xMS Proxy Server(?)
> > >4) 1xOffice 2000 Premium for Mail client, Frontpage, etc.
> > >
> >
> > Don't forget to include biyearly complete replacement of all your software
> > frequently necessitated to use MS's latest'n'greatest operating system.
> Nobody
> > would seriously consider using win31, win9x or even winNT software with
> W2K
> > production environment.
> >
>
> Not win3x or win9x for servers, duh. But NT/W2K for production? I can't even
> find the strength to type out my laughter and your pathetic stupidity and
> ignorance of the 10s of thousands who are doing just that very successfully
> and less expensively than oracle or ibm solutions.
Deny reality all you want, loser...the facts are still the same.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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