Linux-Advocacy Digest #219, Volume #30 Mon, 13 Nov 00 22:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Glitch)
Linux needs now ... ("Pedro Iglesias")
Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here... (Moderator)
Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here... (Glitch)
Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here... (Glitch)
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Mandrake, thoughts? Opinions? (Glitch)
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Marty)
Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mandrake, thoughts? Opinions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux get new term? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:18:54 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
"tklso@pklif" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob says...
> >
> >http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html
> >
> >Note that in this survey of the longest uptimes, every single one of
> >them is running some form of Unix. Not even one single one is running
> >any Microsoft OS, even Windows 2000.
>
> this is not fair.
>
> windows OS's are designed for ease of use and not for staying up longest.
>
> you really can't have it both ways. If you want a pretty looking OS,
> you have to put up with a crash here and there. If you want a solid
> OS like unix, you have to put up with not having all those pretty windows
> on the desktop.
>
> it is a matter of choice. that is why unix is used for servers, and windows
> for the desktop. desktop system do not have to stay up too long, unlike
> servers.
>
speak for yourself. I'd *like* to have my desktop stay up for as long as
i'm going to use it. I let my system stay on overnight even if i'm not
using it as there is no reason why i should turn it off and wait for it
to boot up again the next day when I decide i want to use it.
Unfortunately Windows likes to take *a lot* of breaks and therefore I
have to reboot if i want to keep doing what i was in the middle of doing
before the whole system went down b/c of one program croaked. Even if
the system doesn't crash I have to reboot b/c Windows likes using up
resources but doesn't like giving them back and of course after a while
my System resources are "less than 2%".
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From: "Pedro Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux needs now ...
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:12:55 GMT
... a standar directory scheme and configuration files location
and syntax and an universal installation method. I think these two
things are big lacks nowadays. Not advocating Windows at all,
just saying to you what I think are important things I'd like to have
at my GNU/Linux. There are more, but for now, those two are
enough, what do you think ?
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From: Moderator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here...
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:15:28 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Well my Mandrake 7.2 CD hasn't arrived yet, but taking a look at the
> Mandrake group is anything but encouraginging. Users are complaining
> about the same old library dependency problems, modems not working, CD
> images corrupt, fonts, Netscape and so forth. Here's a real beauty.
> Can't you Linux nuts get a wheel mouse working properly under your
> half aborted "operating system". Just look at the hell that this poor
> soul is going through to get a wheel mouse to work. Oh yea, I left all
> the headers in so you net cops don't claim I am making it all up, like
> you seem to like to do when things aren't going your way.
I don't know. I have a USB mousewheel running fine with
KDE2/Netscape/FreeBSD. One of the problems with Linux is that they
never document anything. Manpages a year or so behind, HOWTOs that
apply to every distribution except the one you're using, etc. Then if
you can't figure anything out, you are labeled as dumb and tossed aside
by the kids who got their machines to work right the first time with
Linux through some weird alignment of the planets. That's the problem
with the Linux community. If you don't know something, you are dumb and
don't deserve to use Linux in the first place.
--
-Moderator
"Unfairly but truthfully, our party has been tagged as
being against things. Anti-immigrant, for example."
-George W. Bush, New York Times, 7/2/2000
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:21:49 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here...
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Well my Mandrake 7.2 CD hasn't arrived yet, but taking a look at the
> > Mandrake group is anything but encouraginging. Users are complaining
> > about the same old library dependency problems, modems not working, CD
> > images corrupt, fonts, Netscape and so forth. Here's a real beauty.
> > Can't you Linux nuts get a wheel mouse working properly under your
> > half aborted "operating system". Just look at the hell that this poor
> > soul is going through to get a wheel mouse to work. Oh yea, I left all
> > the headers in so you net cops don't claim I am making it all up, like
> > you seem to like to do when things aren't going your way.
>
> My mouse wheel works. It didn't previously (7.1).
>
> My Voodoo 5 card works now, but wasn't supported in 7.1. I found XFree86
> 4.0.1 and installed it. Had to figure out the configuration script but it
> worked just fine.
>
> Mousewheel don't work in Netscape, but then I don't use Netscape on Linux.
> I use konqueror instead.
>
> I've yet to see a library dependancy problem, any more than I've seen the
> DLL hell on Windows.
>
> My modem works just fine. A previous modem that Windows didn't recognise is
> just as difficult to make work under Windows, BTW.
>
> I've never seen a corrupt CD image, though I've created a few CD coasters
> myself.
>
> Fonts, yeah, that's still there. But overall, LM 7.2 is looking good.
>
> Oh yeah, how come your CD's are taking so long. I ordered mine one day,
> they arrived in the post the next.
>
psst, here is alittle secret: she likes to complain
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:23:08 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Well my Mandrake 7.2 CD hasn't arrived yet, but taking a look at the
> Mandrake group is anything but encouraginging. Users are complaining
> about the same old library dependency problems, modems not working, CD
> images corrupt, fonts, Netscape and so forth. Here's a real beauty.
if you don't like what people say about Mandrake ( i said mandrake mind
you, not linux) then why did you buy it?
also, we've seen you complain about linux in general so if u don't like
it why do you use it? please answer. i've love to hear this one.
> Can't you Linux nuts get a wheel mouse working properly under your
> half aborted "operating system". Just look at the hell that this poor
> soul is going through to get a wheel mouse to work. Oh yea, I left all
> the headers in so you net cops don't claim I am making it all up, like
> you seem to like to do when things aren't going your way.
>
> *******************************************************************************
> Path:
>
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:19:25 GMT
"tklso@pklif" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob says...
> >
> >http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html
> >
> >Note that in this survey of the longest uptimes, every single one of
> >them is running some form of Unix. Not even one single one is running
> >any Microsoft OS, even Windows 2000.
>
> this is not fair.
>
> windows OS's are designed for ease of use and not for staying up longest.
I don't follow you. Where is the compromise you must seek between making
it easy to use and making it not crappy? Unstability comes from bad
design, not from a nice desktop.
>
> you really can't have it both ways.
Let some competition arise and you'll have it both ways. There's no
technical reason not to. Under monopoly condition MS is the rule. And MS
is crappy.
> If you want a pretty looking OS,
> you have to put up with a crash here and there. If you want a solid
> OS like unix, you have to put up with not having all those pretty windows
> on the desktop.
>
> it is a matter of choice. that is why unix is used for servers, and windows
> for the desktop. desktop system do not have to stay up too long, unlike
> servers.
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:24:19 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake, thoughts? Opinions?
any reason why you bought mandrake then? why didn't u goto your local
coal mine instead?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:52:26 +0100, Bas van der Meer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Be aware that the full version that is available right now might NOT
> >contain the final KDE2, but still a beta because Mandrakesoft had to ship
> >some Mandrake 7.2 before November 1 in order to get them in some shops
> >before Xmas. The download version and later versions do contain final KDE2.
> >So you might want to check that out before you buy.
>
> I'd rather get coal for Christmas than Linux.
>
> claire
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:27:54 GMT
Bob Lyday wrote:
>
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html
>
> Note that in this survey of the longest uptimes, every single one of
> them is running some form of Unix. Not even one single one is running
> any Microsoft OS, even Windows 2000, which ZDNet just stated is the
> best webserver of all in a recent issue.
Allow me to interject some personal experience.
My OS/2 emulation web site is hosted by the kind folks at VintageGaming.com.
They gave me unlimited space and my own domain name. They were running on a
reliable old Solaris box which never gave me one ounce of trouble.
Recently, they decided it would be a great idea to take this smoothly working
setup and install Win2K as the web server in its place. I now had to change
my content in two ways:
1. My index.html page had to become default.htm (requiring changes in all
of the sub-pages that link back to this page)
2. All of the CGI stuff I was using had to be canned, rebuilt, or replaced
If that was the extent of the trouble, it would have been inconvenient, but
tolerable, but it wasn't. Take a look now at where
http://emuos2.vintagegaming.com is now. Or even
http://www.vintagegaming.com. Can't reach it, can you? It's been like this
on and off for 2 weeks. It has been down more than it has been up by a ratio
of 100:1.
Needless to say, I'm less than impressed.
My PC has enjoyed more connectivity and uptime than this web server, and I run
beta drivers and do risky development and testing work on it. I'd serve the
page right off of my PC, but I'm not guaranteed a static IP address, so it
wouldn't work too well.
My advice to webmasters: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is broke,
don't fix it with Win2K.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Same old Linux..Nothing new here...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:23:28 GMT
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:23:08 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if you don't like what people say about Mandrake ( i said mandrake mind
>you, not linux) then why did you buy it?
For $10.00 or so why not?
Using it for even 10 minutes allows me to appreciate Windows so much
more.
It's like having to drive one of those awful Ford Taurus's that Hertz
always seems to rent me when I travel on business, and then getting
into my Impala SS once again when I return home.
>also, we've seen you complain about linux in general so if u don't like
>it why do you use it? please answer. i've love to hear this one.
Someday, maybe, possibly, Linux might actually turn into a swan
instead of being the ugly duckling that it currently is.
If I'm still alive if / when that happens, I'm 40 now, I'd like to be
one of the first to experience it.
claire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mandrake, thoughts? Opinions?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:27:44 GMT
Personally I'd rather have a blank CDR than one with Linux on it. At
least a blank is useful to me, unlike Linux.
I ordered a copy because it is certainly cheap enough, and I like to
see how the other half is suffering. You'll be back to Windows soon
Pete, just like you did last time.
All in good time. All in good time.
claire
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:00:51 +0000, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I'd rather get coal for Christmas than Linux.
>
>Then why did you order a copy of Linux Mandrake 7.2, as you said in another
>topic?
>
>I've bought several - they're cheap enough. I've got RedHat, Slakware,
>Mandrake 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2
>
>Would you like me to send you a lump of coal? Would that be the smokeless
>kind or the old smelly stuff?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:29:49 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:52:09 GMT...
> ...and A transfinite number of monkeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:58:11 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : My mistake
> > :
> > : 15 credit hours of calculus.
> > : 5 credit hours of differential equations
> > : (best summed up as calculus by ESP)
> >
> > What on earth are you blithering about? The term "differential calculus"
> > is used to describe the process of taking derivatives of functions in the
> > real and/or complex fields. Likewise, the process of integration is
> > referred to as "integral calculus". You spent 5 hours of time learning
> > how to take derivatives??? Perhaps you mean real analysis? Or maybe
> > vector calculus?
>
> First off, he was talking about differential equations and not just
> derivatives.
>
> Furthermore, it is easy to spend hours and hours learning how to
> differentiate and integrate if you're not just learning the theory,
> but really practising the damned stuff. Trust me. I'm doing a lot of
Yep...and it's still not enough practice by the time you hit the
Physics and Electrical Engineering classes that actually use the stuff
(electrostatics; semiconductor design, etc.)
> substitution and product integration at the moment, and because I'm a
> notoriously lazy pupil, I don't work nearly enough on it. I understand
> it all. But still it's damn hard to get it all right if one hasn't
> *practised*.
>
> mawa
> --
> Use protection.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:33:35 -0500
Jake Taense wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> >> Well this settles it. He is a plumber. No wonder he can't follow
> >> simple usenet netiquette. He's an embarassment that just won't go
> >
> >I have fulfilled or surpassed all of the core requirements for an
> >engineering degree. I'm a couple hours short in humanities electives.
> >
> >big fucking deal.
>
> Aaron - all that is here is the admission that you aren't an Engineer, yet you
> claim to be one.
>
Are you claiming that having taken a course, in say, english literature
is the difference between being an engineer or not?
What part of fulfilled or EXCEEDED all core curriculum requirements
do you not undferstand?
> Given that you claim that status when you don't hold it, why should we believe
> that you have the rest of your education? You've already demonstrated the
If I was lying about my education, then I would have claimed to have
completed my degree.
> tendency to lie about your education.
I did no such thing.
I fulfilled all of the requirements for my degree in math, science,
and engineering courses...to the extent that if I were to take any more
math, science, or engineering, Purdue won't grant me credit for them
All that I have left is a few mickey-mouse electives....which
absolutely NOBODY outside of the academic world gives a hoot about.
>
> Plus, you hardly carry yourself like an educated professional. People have a
> hard enough time giving your posts any serious consideration without this
> information.
I make my points.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:37:18 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy ! ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Chad doesnt know this, because chad is faking his experience again. He actually
> : had no DB experience to speak of, no linux or unix experience to speak of, and
> : only understands windows in the most rudimentary fashion.
>
> Get this: In another part of this thread he tried claiming that having the
> database use a file (as opposed to a raw partition) is the most typical
> way to do it, and most everyone does it like that. Chad must have a
> wacky definition of "most everyone".
Chad only knows Neutered Technology droids....therefore, "most everyone",
in his experience, includes ZERO Unix and mainframe people.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.politics.election
Subject: Re: Linux get new term?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:39:36 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> Wrong. You're looking at the history of *detected* voter fraud.
> :> A successful voter fraud would be one that doesn't get detected,
> :> so we can't tell how many successes there have been, and who
> :> committed them. All I am saying is that BOTH parties have the
> :> immoral makeup such that I wouldn't be surprised if they did it.
> :>
> :> The Democrats have Chicago, the Republicans have Watergate. They
> :> both have a history of underhanded behaviour.
> :>
> :> [snip assinine sig]
>
> : http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001113_xex_how_democrat.shtml
>
> [snip]
>
> Sigh, I *SAID* that I knew about the recorded Democrat vote
> counting fraud - so why waste your time posting it as if it was
for the benefit of others.
> some kind of counterpoint to what I said? And furthermore,
> there's no need to give *both* the URL, and the verbatim contents
> of the page. That's almost as annoyingly wasteful as your sig.
Oh well.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:40:44 -0500
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Richardson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:44:10 GMT,
> > Loren Petrich, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > brought forth the following words...:
>
> > > And taxation is specified by law, meaning that, by definition, it is
> > >not theft.
> > When the law specified slavery, was it not slavery?
>
> So what?
>
> And all the property-rights absolutists would have defended slavery
> on the ground that ordering the slaves freed would have set a dangerous
> precedent in the form of the government overruling property claims.
>
What part of "PEOPLE are not property" do you not understand?
> --
> Loren Petrich
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> And a fast train
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:42:59 -0500
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Static66
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:44:10 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > That demonization of "government regulations" is silly.
> > Tell that to a Jew who lived in Germany when hitler gained power..
>
> So what? That's like saying that police brutality means that all
> police forces ought to be disbanded. Or that military dictatorships
> (hint, hint, Static66) mean that all military forces ought to be
> disbanded.
>
> > > Ah yes. That dirty word, "socialism".
> > > And taxation is specified by law, meaning that, by definition, it is
> > >not theft.
>
> > AHH yes more of Lorens flawed logic. "it is the law therefore it must
> > be just and right!"
>
> Which is what you law-and-order types never tire of saying about
> *your* favorite laws.
Let's all go to Loren's apartment in the middle of the night,
and violate the laws against:
Breaking and Entering
Home invasion
Theft
Murder
and if we can find a desperate fag....
he can sodomize you, too.
Sound fun, Loren?
>
> --
> Loren Petrich
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> And a fast train
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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