Linux-Advocacy Digest #591, Volume #30 Fri, 1 Dec 00 12:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape review. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is awful (Robert Wiegand)
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Linux is awful ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Linux is awful ("Snarf")
Re: linux on a 486 (Edward Rosten)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Comparing Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: The Sixth Sense (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Linux is awful ("Snarf")
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("James A. Robertson")
Re: Comparing Linux (JM)
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? (Joseph Dalton)
Re: Windows review (Edward Rosten)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Netscape review.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:51:01 GMT
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:15:26 -0600, spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Please don't insult the Mac people.....I doubt they're thrilled with IE.
Actually it runs quite nicely on my daughters iMac, which is more than
I can say about any version of Netscape I have ever used. The iMac
came with both Netscape and an older version of IE installed. Guess
which one she used? Hint it wasn't the more current version of
Netscape. We upgraded to IE 5 and it is great.
claire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:53:39 GMT
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 05:52:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I did a little bit of homework before I posted my "Hi Claire" response.
>
>A deja-news search for "skully1900" returned only one post; the first
>post in this thread, and posted to only one newsgroup, COLA. This is
>very, very characteristic of Claire.
Ha ha..
You sure have too much time on your hands. You should try refuting the
claims the original poster made, which are all true BTW right down to
the deceptive advertising on the Mandrake Box.
It is difficult to refute something when what the person says is true.
claire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:54:39 GMT
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:39:49 +1300, kiwiunixman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I always feel sorry for the underdog in any industry, it's like the
A lot of people feel sorry for Linux, especially after trying it.
claire
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:41:33 -0600
Eric Meyer wrote:
>
> >They should really try doing a Windows install before complaining.
>
> I have many times. It may not be as easy as installing Office (or the like),
> but it's still a hundred times easier than linux.
Then you are a pretty lucky guy.
Windows may be nice if everything works correctly, but it is a nightmare
when something fails. Since you can't see hwat is really happing inside
the OS it is really difficult to trace down and fix a problem.
Windows is also a major pain to install if you have a number of
devices that aren't supported by the base OS. Installing everything
on my Windows PC takes about 5 CDROMS and 2 floppy disks. And you have
to reboot the stupid machine after installing each driver.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:08:45 +0200
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said James A. Robertson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri, 01 Dec 2000
> >Boy do you have weird notions about law. Your view is that primary
> >vendors in any given market <must> support the mechanisms employed by
> ><all> smaller vendors attempting to compete?
>
> That's one way of putting it. I must correct you on one minor point:
> this is the way the law works, whether you believe it is a "weird
> notion" because you are unfamiliar with it or not.
>
> The primary vendor (so to speak) is NOT ALLOWED to use that fact in ANY
> WAY to gain an advantage over the competition.
I don't understand that much about US laws, but I do believe that this is
allowed.
It's forbid to use that fact to block competition, tough.
> That's called
> "monopolization" or "restraint of trade"; they were both outlawed more
> than a hundred years ago. Regardless of your market position, your only
> options are to make your product *the way your customers want*
> (regardless of whether that provides any lock-in or other
> anti-competitive advantage) at the cheapest price you can. Anything
> else is failure to compete. And, yes, sometimes it even comes down to
> having to help the competition; either that, or face a federal judge.
>
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
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> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:13:54 +0200
"Robert Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Eric Meyer wrote:
> >
> > >They should really try doing a Windows install before complaining.
> >
> > I have many times. It may not be as easy as installing Office (or the
like),
> > but it's still a hundred times easier than linux.
>
> Then you are a pretty lucky guy.
>
> Windows may be nice if everything works correctly, but it is a nightmare
> when something fails. Since you can't see hwat is really happing inside
> the OS it is really difficult to trace down and fix a problem.
No, that is simply not true.
> Windows is also a major pain to install if you have a number of
> devices that aren't supported by the base OS. Installing everything
> on my Windows PC takes about 5 CDROMS and 2 floppy disks. And you have
> to reboot the stupid machine after installing each driver.
I've 3 devices that are not supported by win9x natively (though win2k &
whistler & some linux does support those natively), it's neither a nightmare
nor does it require a reboot after each driver installation.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:40:33 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > >
> > > I can read a variety of formats, and there is always HTML & PDF
> >
> > Ah, yes, PDF, just about the only support for PostScript on
> > Windozzzzzzz.
>
> How to handle postscript files in Windows.
> http://www-pcs.fnal.gov/printing/pc-ps-print/
> http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.html
> http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_PSAlter.html
> http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_HTMLDOC.html
> http://www.lincolnco.com/converters.htm
> http://www.lincolnco.com/viewers.htm
> http://www.rops.org/
>
> Want to repeat that statement?
Those are all viewers and converters [I couldn't get the first
link to respond]. I thank you for showing me some stuff that
could turn out useful.
But the only tool for generating Postscript shown in those
links is that HTMLDOC product. Isn't there any thing for
/producing/ documents in PostScript, aside from Adobe?
By the way, you have a real way with words:
> Are you really so ignorant, or are you playing?
Every person has their domain of ignorance. I tend not
to want to jump on people for not knowing something.
If I come back later and still claim there isn't much
for Postscript in Windozzzzzzzz, then you can jump
on me. <smile></smile>
Chris
--
Now why don't y'all juss leave this
poor ol' cuntry bawh alone?
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From: "Snarf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:38:35 -0500
Reply-To: "Snarf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pete, why don't you stop bitching about KDE being unstable, head over to
their site and download the latest version? I totally agree with you, the
beta version that came with LM7.2 crashes all the time, but the KDE2 final
is rock stable.
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:dBAV5.491$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mig wrote:
>
> > Mandrake changed the splashscreen and he's using Mandrake 7.2 like me.
> > Give us the result of your "konqueror --version" command
> > Mine is
> > Qt: 2.2.1
> > KDE: 2.0pre
> > Konqueror: 1.9.8
> >
>
> Qt: 2.2.1
> KDE: 2.0pre
> Konqueror: 1.9.8
>
> Someone did say that they thought "2.0pre" meant it was V2.0, as this was
a
> bug that didn't get fixed for the release.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
>
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on a 486
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:46:05 +0000
Micah Higgs wrote:
>
> is it possibul to put linux on a 486/66mhz with only a floppy drive?
Yes.
Try monkey linux (google search for it).
It comes on 5 floppies.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold | Edward
Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? | u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies | @
| eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:45:49 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> > > That is not good if you make a general purpose software.
> > > Especially if it's widely spread.
> > > Take linux, frex, I didn't pay anything for my dist, and I've several, I
> > > didn't pay for support, but I get it nonetheless, from newsgroup, email
> > > lists, IRC, friends, and so on.
> >
> > Still, there are people who cannot get support in those ways.
> > Or, they believe that the only good support is expensive support.
> > (I just wish I had some of those people as customers <grin>).
>
> How many of linux-users cannot get support in those ways?
> Small precentage of the compotent ones.
Linux is a different case. You have to have balls to use it.
Windozzzzzzzz, yeah, most average users can deal with the basics.
(Though there still are some real bozos who just don't get it!)
With Linux, you're more likely to need to solve certain problems.
I love Linux, but I wouldn't tell a friend or relative to use
it unless they had a neighbor (like me) who could help them
out.
With Windows, though it can have problems just as frustrating as
those with Linux, you can be reasonably sure you're one handshake
away from a competent user who can help you.
Linux will steadily grow, though. Maybe in a few years the
Linux-guru density will approach he Windozzzzz-guru density.
(No pun intended!)
Chris
--
Now why don't y'all juss leave this
poor ol' cuntry bawh alone?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comparing Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 11:47:56 -0500
UnixGeek wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi) wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 01:09:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Why is (almost) everybody out there comparing Linux to other
> Operation
> > >Systems ??
> >
> > I don't know. Maybe they're bitter little dweebs with small penises.
> > Seriously, most of the people who are obsessed with
> making "comparisons"
> > are like this. You also get a lot of people like this who program in
> certain
> > programming languages.
> >
> > I think it's motivated primarily by bitter and envy that their
> supposedly
> > "better" system is less popular than something else.
> >
> > Personally, I use Linux, but couldn't give a rats a** if it
> gets "more
> > popular".
> >
>
> One reason to care, would be availablity of software. If linux gets
> more popular, more development would be directed that way. There are
> many windows programs I miss, and from a business standpoint, it doesnt
> make much sense for them to port them to linux. Who cares if we are
> accepted, If we cared, we would stick with windows, but its nice to see
> more and more software coming our way
This trend will continue to accelerate.
Now that Sun has a commercial release of StarOffice, the
path is clear.
> > --
> > Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> > elflord at panix dot com
> >
>
> --
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:50:48 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> By who? And where does the money come from?
>
> > >> Actually, that's the solution. The problem is that with copyright
> > >> wrapped in a trade secret, you can make money just *owning* it, without
> > >> ever selling anything at all.
> > >
> > >Please repeat that, I don't think I understand what you are saying here.
> > >If you can, would you provide an example of what you mean?
> >
> > I'm sorry to say, you'll have to point to which part you didn't
> > understand. Re-typing it wouldn't help, after all.
>
> How can you make money by owning copyright wrapped in a trade secret? Are
> you talking about licensing software instead of selling it?
As far as I know, there is nothing to prevent you from
selling GPL software. Linux vendors do it all the time.
I buy those products for the convenience of the bundling and all
the work that went into adding scripts to make configuration
and installation simpler.
I could write, say, a wave editor, and sell it, posting the
code for anyone who wants it, with a GPL license. Some people
might want to buy the software so they can call me to get help.
Sure, Microsoft can make bigger bucks selling an office suite,
especially now that they've knocked off the competition. But one
can still live on the proceeds of free software. "Free" means
"unrestricted" here... not "having no price".
Chris
--
Now why don't y'all juss leave this
poor ol' cuntry bawh alone?
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:55:33 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> VB is the easiest and most simple way to provide an application with GUI.
> And if you take a look at the code, you'll see that there are no components
> glued together.
> The application use standard API call to read/write/modify the registry. You
> could do the same with any language that has a compiler for windows.
> It's usually very easy to convert VB code to C/C++, the reverse is not true,
> of course. If you know C/C++/Java/<any programming language>, it shouldn't
> be hard to understand what the application is doing.
Oh, I'm not worried about understanding it. Having already mastered most
aspects of C++, become familiar with MFC and the Win32 API, and now
knowing pretty well knowing how to use C++ Builder (and hence, some Delphi),
I have really no need for VB.
Granted, it may have some hooks into entities that the above products don't
give you, but, for the size of projects I work on, VB is not suitable.
And it has other costs that I'm not keen on paying.
The funny thing about VB is that is great for the simple apps such as
you have written. But it has shortcomings in larger projects, and
your workarounds then make it into a house of cards.
Chris
--
Now why don't y'all juss leave this
poor ol' cuntry bawh alone?
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From: "Snarf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:55:34 -0500
Reply-To: "Snarf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sounds like fun
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:907m3c$lkm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I can't really see the point of a MS person posting in A Linux message
> board, talking how our wonderful penguins are a bunch o' crap, and NOT
expect
> to get reamed. And then complain bout it. Hell, I've posted in the MS
board
> bout how much Windoze sucks, but I was TRYING to get a response outta
those
> dull geeks. And I steered clear o that board for a while. Gotta make life
> interesting. And starting a fight is fun. But, that was months ago I did
> that. Maybe I should start another? Lets take a poll. I say we ALL go to
the
> Windoze boards and start fights, each of us posting in different posts.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:59:39 GMT
Ed Allen wrote:
>
> I have not seen this mentioned in a while and it is *so* educational:
>
> FOCUS:
> But there are bugs an any version which people would really like to have
>fixed.
>
> Gates:
> No! There are no significant bugs in our released software that any
>significant number of users want fixed.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bill Gates reminds me of a surgeon who despises the very gomers he saves.
He will perform the operations he deems necessary, treat the patient
with contempt, belittle the patient's concerns, and it is not his
fault if a malpractice suit results.
Chris
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From: "James A. Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:00:03 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Said James A. Robertson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri, 01 Dec 2000
> > >Boy do you have weird notions about law. Your view is that primary
> > >vendors in any given market <must> support the mechanisms employed by
> > ><all> smaller vendors attempting to compete?
> >
> > That's one way of putting it. I must correct you on one minor point:
> > this is the way the law works, whether you believe it is a "weird
> > notion" because you are unfamiliar with it or not.
> >
> > The primary vendor (so to speak) is NOT ALLOWED to use that fact in ANY
> > WAY to gain an advantage over the competition.
>
If you take that the way you wrote it, then a vendor that gains a
plurality of the market must immediately stop further improvements until
others 'catch up'. Because <any> improvements can be taken as an
attempt to impede competition by making your product more attractive.
This is exactly why I don't like government interference - it's a rat
hole with no bottom.
--
James A. Robertson
Technical Product Manager (Smalltalk), Cincom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JM)
Subject: Re: Comparing Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:10:48 GMT
On 1 Dec 2000 02:45:20 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)) wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 01:09:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Why is (almost) everybody out there comparing Linux to other Operation
>>Systems ??
>
>I don't know. Maybe they're bitter little dweebs with small penises.
>Seriously, most of the people who are obsessed with making "comparisons"
>are like this. You also get a lot of people like this who program in certain
>programming languages.
>
>I think it's motivated primarily by bitter and envy that their supposedly
>"better" system is less popular than something else.
>
>Personally, I use Linux, but couldn't give a rats a** if it gets "more
>popular".
Personally, I prefer things when they have a more 'cult' status. Makes
you feel like you know something that they don't.
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From: Joseph Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: 01 Dec 2000 12:06:57 -0500
"James A. Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
> >
> > "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:O3EV5.24844$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >
> > > So you are saying that if I write an application that creates a file of an
> > > efficient format for my application. The market likes my application and
> > a
> > > majority buy it. Then a copy cat comes along and creates a similar
> > > application, it is my responsibility to make sure he can read my files.
> > >
> > > Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
>
> Software is not a 'utility' that everyone needs. Even now, there are
> plenty of people in the US who do not work with a PC on a regular basis.
>
Unfortunately this statement can be applied to quite a lot of
activities in the US, even including "utilities" themselves. There are
plenty of people who do not work with electricity, water companies,
gas companies, phone companies, etc. That does not mean that they are
not monopolies.
Secondly for those who do need to use a PC on a regular basis, the
proprietary but most common file format can indeed be a hindrance.
Consider the above argument by Chad applied to phone companies - If I
(as a phone company) invest a lot of money into wiring up a locale,
using a particular digital format on the interconnect, and a copy-cat
comes along, it is my responsibility to make sure he can connect to my
network? .... I believe the FTC has said yes.
> >
> > If you were the largest power supplier, would you be able to pick an
> > arbitrary voltage to feed so you could be the only source of appliances
> > too? Or if you were the largest railroad, could you change the width
> > of the tracks so no one else's equipment would work there?
> >
> > Les Mikesell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> James A. Robertson
> Technical Product Manager (Smalltalk), Cincom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> <Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library>
--
-- Joe Dalton
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:08:23 +0000
> Well, 95 need 4MB of RAM & 386DX
> That is less than what linux need. (Linux need 8MB on a 386, IIRC)
Well, you recall incorrectly. Linux will run happily on a s86 with 4mb
of ram and do useful things. If you pick the distro carefully it will
run in 2M of ram. This can be improved by making a custom kernel.
-Ed
> You need 85MB free on the hard drive for windows to install itself (maximum,
> you might need as little as 50MB during installation) and 76MB after the
> install has ended. (maximum, you might need as little as 41MB)
The smallest useful Linux distro i've seen fits in 5 floppies. With that
you get X, netscape and a few other things. If you go for the 7 floppy
version, you get GCC and sendmail as well.
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold | Edward
Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? | u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies | @
| eng.ox.ac.uk
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