Linux-Advocacy Digest #633, Volume #30 Sun, 3 Dec 00 19:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad Myers")
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their cheap PC's? ("Erik
Funkenbusch")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Linux is awful ("Limestone Cowboy")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: .The beauty of open source (Milton)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad Myers")
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:19:40 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> False Premise.
>
> Republicans obey and respect the laws.
I'll just cite Richard Nixon, John Dean, H.R. "Bob"
Haldeman, John Mitchell, Ronald Reagan, Jim Bakker,
Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy as contrary examples.
Not to mention non-lawbreaking draft dodgers such as
Newt Gingrich and Dan Quayle. They made a movie about
Dan Quayle's Vietnam experience -- "Full Dinner Jacket".
> > What the frikkin' pundits don't mention is that, in 1960, when Tricky
> > Dick narrowly lost, the Republican party litigated in the same way
> > as the Democrats now.
>
> No, they did not. Nixon conceded before any suits were filed,
> even though it was WELL KNOWN that Daley had managed to get
> votes out of people who had been dead for years.
Hey, that was S.O.P. for Chicago. Did you know you can induce many
people to vote for your man by giving them a bottle of cheap
wine? See Mike Royko's "Boss" for details. One thing I miss about
not living in Chicago is the news stories about the ward
shenanigans. Although there are some funny stories here in
Chucktown, South Carolina.
> > If you want to hear a bunch of people who whine even when they're
> > winning, look at the Republicans.
>
> You Demoncrooks are all the same--spend your entire life accusing
> Republicans of the sins committed by the Democrats.
I'm not a Democrat, though I generally feel some of the same things
that Democrats feel. I prefer to think of each situation on its
own merits, independent of what some political shill tells me to think.
Right now, I'm fed up to here with both the Republicans and the
Democrats. Luckily, both sides are still quite far in view from
the Nazi party, although I've heard some "Republicans" voice some
opinions that seem quite mean.
> Remember slavery and Jim Crow laws...that's the core of Democrat
> values...keeping blacks impoverished and uneducated....and it
> continues to this day....look at ANY school district controlled
> by Democrats, and you will see that the PRIMARY effect is one
> of keeping the black children uneducated.
Bullshit. You've been listening to Rush too much. Man, I sometimes
work in this lab, and the damn radio is always blathering from
Rush, Mike Nichols (is that the name?), Laura Schlesinger, and (locally)
Nancy Wolf, who think their shit opinions are worth broadcasting
over the airwaves. It's like a breath of fresh air to hear a calm,
matter-of-fact, BBC broadcast, or read a balanced article in the
New Yorker.
> You accuse Republicans of hating blacks...when in actuality,
> the largest collection of black-hating racists is in the
> leadership of the Democratic party.
Where did I do that? I just think many Republicans believe in
whatever will reduce their taxes, regardless of the side-effects.
Only in America....
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:58:34 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> Tom Wilson wrote:
>> I wrote:
>>> Tom Wilson writes:
>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>> Tom Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> I wrote:
>>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>>>>>>>>>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
>>>>>>>>> Which is not intuitive. First-time vi users, if they try to do
>>>>>>>> Big fucking deal. NOTHING about computers is "intuitive"
>>>>>>> Incorrect; consider the power switch.
>>>>>> You'd be surprised....
>>>>>> Never underestimate the idiot factor.
>>>>> The power switch is NOT "intuitive"
>>>>>
>>>>> Proof: put a primative tribesman in a room with electric appliances
>>>>> and tell him to start the things into operation.
>>>> I'm in agreement.
>>> You shouldn't be. His example doesn't represent proof for a power
>>> switch not being intuitive.
>> I'm agreeing that my choice of "idiot" was wrong. The hypothesis, strange as
>> it is, points it out. It's a matter of experience and environment, not
>> intellect. I used the word idiot because I had been trouble-shooting over
>> the phone to complete morons that evening and had a dim view of humanity as
>> a result.
>>>> The language I used, in hindsight, was wrong.
>>> That doesn't justify your agreement.
>> How do you figure? I was agreeing that my wording was off track and Aaron's
>> post had pointed that out.
>>>> Read: Never underestimate the ignorance factor.
>>>> I used "idiot" because i'ts been one of those nights...
>>> Go to the store. Buy a lamp. Take it home. Do you consult a manual
>>> to find out what to do with the cord? I hope not. Yet the hypothesized
>>> "primative tribesman" could have no idea what the cord is for. Does that
>>> prove that the power cord is not intuitive?
>> Oh for God's sake!
>>
>> His hypothesis was extreme, yes. However, it makes a valid point regarding
>> experience. You're bordering on anal retention, i'm afraid.
> Everything about Tholen is anus-related.
Even more invective. You must really be hurting from the discussion
over intuition.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:26:22 -0600
"Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > Do you know how you remove TCP from Linux? It requires a kernel
recompile.
> > So Yes, it does require a reboot to remove it and another reboot to add
it
> > back in.
>
> You're not exactly fair.
> If by removing you mean "physically removing", then you're correct, but
> that's of very little interest.
That is what mlw originally specified.
> If you mean "disabling", i.e. making it unavailable to any user, locally
> and remotely, which is what is normally required, you can do it without
> rebooting, and without affecting any running application, except
> applications using TCP, of course.
Same with NT. Under NT4, for instance, right click on Network Neighborhood,
choose properties. Select the Bindings tab. choose All Protocols from the
Show Bindings for dropdown. Click on TCP/IP and choose Disable. Choose Ok.
It will rebind the protocols and ask you to reboot, however you don't have
to (this is a long standing bug. NT asks you to reboot, but in almost all
cases it's not necessary). Check your TCP connections, they no longer work.
Go back in and reenable TCP/IP, still without rebooting and they work again.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:10:44 GMT
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > >
> > > It is perfectly legal for two companies to sign exclusive contacts. Much
> > > of what we call "anti-trust" is quite legal under normal circumstances.
> > > This is not contradictory, but, in fact, a very reasonable response to a
> > > monopoly. It is sort of like a PID motion controller. As one company
> > > becomes so successful that it becomes virtually impossible to compete
> > > with it. "Feedback" must be applied to prevent runaway.
> >
> > Not if I understnad the sherman act correctly. Then again, I don't
> > understand how the US handle as simple a procedure as election, so the legal
> > system is completly beyond me :)
>
>
> well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> and the other 95% counted once.
The sad part is, the legal system WAS designed to handle crybaby losers
like Gore, however, the Gore lawyers, the almost entirely Democrat
controlled election system in Florida, and 7 Democratic activists -- er
-- FL Supreme Court Justices managed to ursurp the Constitutional election
power from the FL legislature and make a mockery of the Rule of Law.
But then, this is nothing new for the Democrats, take the Impeachment.
Clinton and Gore are bullet proof. Laws do not apply to them, so they
can bend it and stretch it to however they see fit. It's unfortunate
that there are so many willing accomplices willing to throw conscience
to the wind and do whatever he says no matter the Constitutional
ramifications.
The really, really sad part is, the American public is too ignorant to
understand it, let alone get angered about it. A large portion of them
think Hilary is right when she wants to do away with the electoral college.
If it were her druthers, she'd abolish the Constitution all together.
-Chad
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their cheap PC's?
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:29:20 -0600
"jtnews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My Dell Dimension V400C runs linux great! And it was a bargain basement
> model last year! This machine is already my web server, mail server,
> DNS server, router, and batch job processor!
Yes, it runs Linux great *TODAY*. It most likely didn't run it great when
the machine and configuration were just released.
In any event, the machines today are a horse of another color. They use all
kinds of money saving things, like shared video memory/system memory.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:27:57 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > On my linux box, Navigator and Messenger use 16.9 Mb. Adding another
> instance
> > of Navigator adds about 0.5 Mb.
>
> Which version?
Netscape 4.75. I think I'm going to find a separate news reader and
mail client. Actually, I'd prefer sendmail (or even better, qmail), but
I don't need a local mailserver.
> > You have to take these numbers with a grain of salt. There are different
> > ways to grab memory in Win32. The question may just be how much can you
> > do before the "Out of Virtual Memory" box comes up (in NT 4).
>
> The way I set this up? I don't think I will.
> I've never seen this message in Win2K, which is what I'm using. Both as a
> desktop and as a server.
I've seen this message on the NT 4 systems we used, when we ran a rather
stupid application written early on in the project, which would load large
TIF, GIF, and other images files all at once into memory. And I suspect that
other of our applications leaked like bed-wetters. Some time we shall
be able to try it under Win2K, I hope.
It would be interesting to write a program to deliberate use up a lot of
memory, to see what happens under both OS's.
> And I have recently doubled my RAM, which has the very odd affect of lower
> absolute number of memory taken.
Does make you wonder what equation is used! Too bad that, like many applications,
the Help file doesn't include a description of the algorithms used, with references
to articles that explain the assumptions and methods of the algorithms. I guess
that comes from my scientific background (though I tended to suck as a scientist.)
Chris
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From: "Limestone Cowboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 23:25:34 -0000
my favourite is "unknown device" please load driver for unknown
device....that is so useful.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:30:14 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Because he was hell-bent on abriding first-amendment rights,
> limiting the ability of candidates and citizens to publicize
> their views on election issues, turning over all communication
> to the leftist Ministries of Propaganda more commonly known as
> ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC.
I always get a chuckle over references to "the liberal media."
Although it is true nowadays that these stations now broadcast
thinly-disquised entertainment under the guise of "news".
> McCain was defeated because his ideas would assure that
> ALL opposition to the Democrat party would be effectively
> silenced forever.
Drinking Sterno again?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 18:33:03 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Bruce Ediger writes:
>
> >> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> >>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
>
> >> Which is not intuitive. First-time vi users, if they try to do
> >> anything without having had a tutorial, won't get very far because
> >> of that "every letter key is a command" approach. Most people
>
> > http://www.asktog.com/papers/raskinintuit.html
> >
> > Jeff Raskin, "Intuitive Equals Familiar", Communications of the ACM,
> > vol 37, no 9, Sept, 1994, pg 17.
>
> Precisely why Aaron's "primitive tribesman" analogy fails. He's
> hypothesizing someone with no familiarity (experience, to use my
> term) with electrical appliances.
You are a fucking idiot who COMPLETELY misses the point of the
entire paper. "INTUITIVENESS" is an illusion, you MORON.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:56:20 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The only tests that 'demonstrated' superior speed on a Dvorak
>>>>>>>>> board were those conducted by Dvorak himself (1943, US Navy).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All other trials have failed to reproduce the results.
>>>>>>>> <http://www.som.syr.edu/facstaff/dvorak/blackburn.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Typing, Fastest. Mrs. Barbara Blackburn of Salem, Oregon can maintain
>>>>>>>> 150 wpm for 50 min (37,500 key strokes) and attains a speed of 170 wpm
>>>>>>>> using the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard (DSK) system. Her top speed was
>>>>>>>> recorded at 212 wpm. Source: Norris McWhirter, ed. (1985), THE GUINNESS
>>>>>>>> BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS, 23rd US edition, New York: Sterling Publishing
>>>>>>>> Co., Inc."
>>>>>>> Big fucking deal.
>>>>>> On the contrary, it represents a trial that did not fail to reproduce
>>>>>> the superior speed.
>>>>> There is NOTHING to indicate that she could not achieve the same
>>>>> speed on a QWERTY keyboard.
>>>> On the contrary, there is the 150 wpm speed, which is 20 wpm less than
>>>> the speed achieved with the DSK. That is something to indicate that she
>>>> could not achieve the same speed on a QWERTY keyboard.
>>>>>> It doesn't surprise me that you would try to downplay the significance
>>>>>> of evidence that contradicts a claim of yours.
>>>>> The choice of ONE PERSON proves nothing, dave.
>>>> On the contrary, it represents a trial that did not fail to reproduce
>>>> the superior speed. You claimed that "All other trials have failed
>>>> to reproduce the results." At best, you can now only claim "all but
>>>> one", until such time as additional results are provided about which
>>>> you may be unaware.
>>>>> The only way to determine which keyboard is better is to take
>>>>> two large groups of non-typists and put them through touch-typing
>>>>> programs on the two keyboards, where they have exclusive access to
>>>>> that keyboard configuration ONLY, with identicla keyboard time,
>>>>> ....and then see what happens.
>>>> That represents only "a" trial. You claimed that "all other trials"
>>>> failed to reproduce the results. It only takes an example of one
>>>> to eliminate the validity of the "all" claim.
>>>>> Dvorak claims to have done this...but in 55 years NOBODY has
>>>>> reproduced his results.
>>>> Mrs. Barbara Blackburn apparently did. Do you consider her a "nobody"?
>>> 1 person does NOT constitute a test group + a control group,
>> One person DOES constitute "a" trial.
>>> you IGNORANT FUCKING SHIT-FOR-BRAINS.
>> Still lacking a logical argument, you resort to invective yet again.
>> No surprise there.
> I PRESENTED THE GODDAMNED ARGUMENT TWO FUCKING TIMES ALREADY
What you presented twice was an illogical argument, as I explained
in my responses to you.
> YOU IGNORANT POOL OF DIARHEA!
As expected, the usual invective from someone who lacks a logical
argument.
>>> 12+ years of posting to USENET, and Dave Tholen still has yet to
>>> write an opinion based on rational thought processes.
>> How ironic, considering your response.
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From: Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: .The beauty of open source
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 18:32:22 -0500
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:49:37 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux -> We MADE THE EFFORT, so that one day, it came true.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 18:34:35 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Bill Vermillion writes:
>
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> >> I wrote:
>
> >>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> >>>>>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
>
> >>>>> Which is not intuitive. First-time vi users, if they try to do
>
> >>>> Big fucking deal. NOTHING about computers is "intuitive"
>
> >>> Incorrect; consider the power switch.
>
> >> You'd be surprised....
> >> Never underestimate the idiot factor.
>
> > Labeling the power switch 0 or 1 is definately not intuitive
> > to someone who has not been exposed to computer logic.
>
> It's more international than "Off" and "On", given that Arabic
> numerals are used in countries where English is not the primary
> language. And it doesn't make the power switch non-intuitive.
Really now. In Arabian countries and any other place where
Indian numerals are in use, a circle is the number FIVE.
So, you have a switch, which in Indian-number using lands,
is labeled "1 5"
Yeah, that's REAAAAAAAAAAALLY fucking intuitive, moron.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:34:43 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:90e3pb$ospi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Once
> > installed linux starts without reboot and almost anything can be
> > reconfigured
> > without a reboot (add and remove tcp/ip, change ip number, probably
> anything
> > else except upgrading kernel). Mandrake and other linuxes are almost the
> > same
> > except needing 1 reboot between installing linux and using it.
>
> Do you know how you remove TCP from Linux? It requires a kernel recompile.
> So Yes, it does require a reboot to remove it and another reboot to add it
> back in.
I think Nigel was referring to the disabling of various TCP/IP services, which
do not require a reboot.
I'm glad you pointed out that you CAN remove TCP/IP (and other modules)
from Linux, since you can't do that in any Windozzzzzzzzz version.
Although you might be able to remove some DLLs and put up with chronic
error messages (?)
Nigel is wrong in his statement about reboots, if referring to Win 2K.
Chris
Click Okay to continue, and Cancel to okay
this dialog.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:20:36 GMT
"Tim Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> >crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> >day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> >and the other 95% counted once.
>
> So you think Gore should just give up, even though the difference in the
> current totals is well under the margin of error for the way the votes
> were counted?
> There are many sources of errors in vote counting, and
> normally these don't matter, because the difference is big enough that
> even if all the errors went the same way, it would not have made a
> difference. That's not so in this case. That fact that every time they
> use a more accurate counting method, the difference narrows, indicates
> that they have not yet found a good procedure.
Note that these "more accurate counts" are only happening in largely
Democratic counties, and even specific precincts in those counties. If
we had a full state-wide recount (which we shouldn't have had any hand
recounts in the first place, since the law has yet to allow for them in
Florida) we would find that Bush is still the winner.
In Duval county, a Republican stronghold, almost 30,000 ballots were
thrown out due to the same things the Democrats are complaining about
in Dade and Broward. Why aren't the Dems concerned with those votes getting
counted?
In all, the State of Florida has approx. 175,000 uncounted no-vote ballots,
the majority of which came from Republican-won counties.
Please don't fall for the Democrat mantra that all votes must count, they're
just interested in counting enough selective ballots to give them the victory
and sweep all the other Bush ballots under the rug.
Let us not also forget about the 60,000 ballots in Oregon, 40,000+ in New
Mexico, 100,000+ in Iowa and 85,000+ in Wisconsin. Not to mention the
several hundred cited, documented, proven incidents of Democratic fraud
in Milwaukee alone that cost Bush thousands of votes and would've enabled
him to win the state.
Shall we talk about the 5,000 felons in Florida who voted for Gore?
Or the 30,000+ illegal alien Mexicans who voted in California? Or
the 60,000+ deceased democrats who voted nation-wide (probably more)?
What about the 50,000+ aliens who were expedited through the
nationalization process (which usually takes 10+ years) in 5 months
to vote for Democrats in Washington and New York?
Whenever I hear a Democrat spout sanctimony, it makes me sick because
they are so corrupt, so foul, and break every conceivable law and ones
that haven't even been written yet to foul the whole election process.
> Gore owes it to those who voted for him to keep fighting until there
> is actually good evidence that he is not rightful winner.
Which ones? The felons? The illegal aliens? The dead people? or the
incompetent elderly who couldn't punch through the hole?
-Chad
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